yea, on some characters you can also do down toss gyro into run off z catch then throw the gyro up and jump side b
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Antwort an @Hobbes2_
I've never really done a z-catch in that position, so I should practice that. Dumb question, but how do you do the z-catch on that ledge position?
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Antwort an @roboticbuddyy @Hobbes2_
And something I do similar to that at higher percentages, around 70-100%, is just toss it down, wait for them to hand to long and just AR. Good to catch people odd guard and don't react to the way it sends them.
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Antwort an @roboticbuddyy
yeah, this one's more for cheesing early stocks if you get the right situation. gyro at ledge is bonkers
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Antwort an @Hobbes2_
It really is. I also gotta learn how to z-drop and recatch with fair. I saw Grayson do it at FB2020 but I can't do it. Not sure if it's a Pro controller thing or something, since that's what I use.
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Antwort an @roboticbuddyy
Z drop into any aerial should be the same timing I think, I don’t have trouble z dropping and recatchint with any of the aerials. I use pro controller too. It could be a mental block on the timing maybe
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Antwort an @Hobbes2_
Probably might be a block. I'll use tomorrow to practice z-recatching with other aerials. I have.. plenty of time to practice these things, LOL
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Antwort an @roboticbuddyy
Same lmao I’ve been labbing dumb stuff. Might not use it but I’m getting really confident with juggling and recatching gyro in different situations at least
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Antwort an @Hobbes2_
Definitely something I'm gonna practice on. Is it better to short hop or full hop nair recatches, in your opinion?
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Antwort an @roboticbuddyy
I don’t think either is necessarily better since both work depending on the situation. Depends on the approach I suppose
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Fair enough. Gonna try and sleep now, but let's talk more tomorrow. G'night, friend. 
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