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Let's skip witty repartee & position taking, & discuss enduring fundamental questions. (& my books: http://ageofem.com , http://elephantinthebrain.com )

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    Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson Nov 3

    What let gangs take over central america? Police corruption? Inadequate police funding? Too many restrictions on police strategies? Civilian distrust of authorities?https://www.wsj.com/articles/pay-or-die-extortion-economy-drives-latin-americas-murder-crisis-1541167619?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1 …

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      2. Lady Gregory‏ @oldoddjobs Nov 3
        Replying to @robinhanson

        Aren't these answers just restating the question

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      3. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson Nov 3
        Replying to @oldoddjobs

        They seem to me different possible channels of influence.

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      1. Len Layton‏ @lenlayton Nov 3
        Replying to @robinhanson

        Americans’ love of cocaine.

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      1.  🌹 (not socialist)  🌈  🇺🇸.gif‏ @nhdre Nov 3
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        I'd guess drug money. it's always drug money

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      2. James back row guy Oliver‏ @JmsOlvr Nov 5
        Replying to @robinhanson

        I found this: "Drug trafficking is both an important driver of homicide rates in Central America and the main single factor behind rising violence levels in the region. " https://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTLAC/Resources/FINAL_VOLUME_I_ENGLISH_CrimeAndViolence.pdf … Another reason to legalize all drugs without requiring a prescription.

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      3. James back row guy Oliver‏ @JmsOlvr Nov 6
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        Also found this:https://twitter.com/poverty_action/status/1038151282152890368 …

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        IPA @poverty_action
        About to kick off. We partnered with @BrookingsGlobal & @JPAL_Global to co-host a conversation today in Washington DC on urban crime in Latin America. Joanna Monteiro, @DanielMejiaL, and @cblatts will share their experience. @dortegaeval will moderate. pic.twitter.com/M9v3dBJWMW
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      2. Seamus MC‏ @seamus_mc6 Nov 3
        Replying to @robinhanson

        Aztecs were one of the most brutal civs known to history. Better question might be "what took you so long to reassert yourself, locally endemic psycopathy?"

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      3. James back row guy Oliver‏ @JmsOlvr Nov 3
        Replying to @seamus_mc6 @robinhanson

        Salvadorians are predominantly Spanish. The culture is Spanish.

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      4. Seamus MC‏ @seamus_mc6 Nov 3
        Replying to @JmsOlvr @robinhanson

        Wrong. Pop there = 86% mestizo. There’s a small Iberian descended elite, but they don’t join the gangs. Mara members closer to 100% mestizo.

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      5. James back row guy Oliver‏ @JmsOlvr Nov 3
        Replying to @seamus_mc6 @robinhanson

        Mestizo is mixed and they're mostly Spanish.

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      6. Seamus MC‏ @seamus_mc6 Nov 3
        Replying to @JmsOlvr @robinhanson

        Wrong again. mtDNA = 0%, Y chromosome = ~75%. Get what that means? All the great grannies are native, only 3/4 or the great grandads are European. Mestizo = ~63% native. That is NOT mostly Spanish.

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      7. James back row guy Oliver‏ @JmsOlvr Nov 3
        Replying to @seamus_mc6 @robinhanson

        Hmm I read something different. Still 35% or so Spanish.

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      8. Seamus MC‏ @seamus_mc6 Nov 3
        Replying to @JmsOlvr @robinhanson

        Almost there. Now add back the fact that El Salvador does NOT resemble Spain in homicide rate. 85/100k vs 0.7/100k. So if there’s one place we should NOT look in our quest to explain this, it’s Espana. Aztec art offers a better clue. It’s murder all the way down.

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      9. James back row guy Oliver‏ @JmsOlvr Nov 5
        Replying to @seamus_mc6 @robinhanson

        BTW El Paso TX has one of the lowest violent crime rates in the USA so it can be done. Probably we should spend more time looking for a solution the violence problem in Central America that we can contribute to as individuals.https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/may/30/veronica-escobar/el-paso-leader-says-el-paso-safest-city-its-size-c/ …

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      1. James back row guy Oliver‏ @JmsOlvr Nov 4
        Replying to @robinhanson

        Social science has a way to go, I'm not sure we know why the crime rate in the USA shot up in the mid 1960's. These are very important questions.

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      1. Santiago Tórtora‏ @lordcataplanga Nov 3
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        It sounds like they are taking "taxation is theft" way too literally. Seriously, with the money they pay in protection rackets, they could probably afford decent police. But the government can't just burn your house down when you don't pay taxes, so the gangs win.

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      1. Stoobe  🏂 ⚡️‏ @stoobe Nov 3
        Replying to @robinhanson

        I’d add lower economic prospects for legitimate jobs compared to joining a gang. Although something specific about the culture there probably plays a role.

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      1. Erik Sayle‏ @ErikSayle Nov 3
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        Climate change will only accelerate these challenges globally as the tropics heat up as agriculture gets crushed.

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      1. Erik Sayle‏ @ErikSayle Nov 3
        Replying to @robinhanson

        They had a lot of training at American Higher learning institutions. No not Stanford but all the prisons they get sent to let them network and share skills. America exports crime PhD’s.

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      1. Anti_Statist‏ @Real_Dissent Nov 3
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        At some point the gangs and the police become indistinguishable

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