It would help to answer these questions for families, firms, cities, clubs, & churches, & to say how nations differ from these.
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1-When friends came here late 80s from USSR, we required a sponsor be financially responsible for them so the taxpayer wasn't. 2-In 61 yrs Ellis Island was open, 12m admitted, 0 received welfare. 3-Current illegals/refugees abuse welfare/taxpayer, demographic of immigrant matters
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These are great questions! You may enjoy my take on these issues using revealed preference evidence here:https://twitter.com/JohnHolbein1/status/1043195828884537344 …
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This is a great paper
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"Citizenship comes with a set of rights and responsibilities that we do not share with those in other countries. Yet the “cosmopolitan” part of the ethical guideline ignores any special obligations we have toward our fellow citizens." Deaton in 2016.https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/angus-deaton-do-we-need-to-rethink-the-robin-hood-principle/ …
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Are the countries of the West still nations in any meaningful sense?
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Surely it can’t be “whoever sneaks over the border.”
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I see a key question as: What is the optimal economic and cultural synthesis rate? Or How do balance the influx of new culture and human resource, with the preservation of existing culture and infrastructure?
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1. Nothing beyond what's required by ratified treaty, international law, and sovereign law. 2. Law abiding = welcome to try and make it. Break the law lose your privilege to earn citizenship or remain.
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Fundamentally, the issue is what constitutes a ‘just’ claim to territory, allowing for it to be monopolized by some group, and how current territorial possession can be made just if it's not already.
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Further, if we take citizenship, residence, et cetera as ‘shares’ in ownership of a territory, as membership in a firm that owns territory, membership in a state, what are just means of granting and revoking that membership?
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Does the constitutional structure of the state, viewed as a contract of sorts, exhaust this question? That is, if the means of granting and revoking membership are constitutional, are they just? Or should determinations of justice be made according to other criteria?
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Even further, and perhaps relevant to questions of justice, can we design mechanisms for determining membership that produce economically efficient allocations, where membership, along with compensation to relevant parties, is only granted when it’s an economic improvement?
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We need to start viewing territory as a good, distinct from land which only entails being unproduced, where residence is the right to jointly utilize it. Different allocations of these rights have economic consequences, and we can ask efficiency questions about those allocations.
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I have work in progress on all of these topics, follow if you’re interested.
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For thorough discussion, see Harari (2018), 21 Lessons for the 21st Century, Chapter 9, “Immigration”.
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To start with, do you have a definition of "nation" that you are happy with?
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I would like to see an admission that if we “should” allow refugees to enter and deportation is “inhumane,” that implies patriotism. Therefore patriotism is not “fascist” or “evil.”
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Historically citizenship most often linked to military service and political participation. Paying taxes and not breaking law other obvious ones. Maybe could make PP and welfare dependent on the other three but without possibility of expulsion becomes difficult.
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