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    1. Jesper L. Andersen‏ @jlouis666 Jan 11

      interface{} is basically stringly typed programming

      2 replies 5 retweets 19 likes
    2. Anthony Ramine‏ @nokusu Jan 11
      Replying to @jlouis666

      It's so weird how Go relies on that, while @rob_pike's rule 5 is "Data dominates. If you've chosen the right data structures and organized things well, the algorithms will almost always be self-evident. Data structures, not algorithms, are central to programming."

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      Rob Pike‏ @rob_pike Jan 11
      Replying to @nokusu @jlouis666

      It's so weird how something I wrote in one evening over 30 years ago as general guidelines for a university programming class has been taken to be the complete and final definition of all my thinking.

      3:41 AM - 11 Jan 2019
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        2. GNV Dev‏ @gainesville_dev Jan 11
          Replying to @rob_pike @nokusu @jlouis666

          interface{} is a joke. Probably one of the biggest things keeping me away from golang.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Craig Weber‏ @weberc2 Jan 11
          Replying to @gainesville_dev @rob_pike and

          Don’t use it. I rarely have to (<1% of code). Also, what Go lacks in type system it makes up for in operational simplicity (deployment, tooling, ecosystem, performance, learning curve, etc) which are generally more important anyway.

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        4. Dan Joyce‏ @crusoe_tp Jan 17
          Replying to @weberc2 @gainesville_dev and

          So instead of type checked enum/variant for messages, well, they could be sending you ANYTHING. At that point its just C with green threads ;).

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        5. Craig Weber‏ @weberc2 Jan 17
          Replying to @crusoe_tp @gainesville_dev and

          A couple important caveats: Go has interfaces and closures, so you're not reaching for `interface{}` nearly as soon as you would reach for `void*` in C. Secondly, Go interfaces (incl interface{}) have a type tag associated, so you can always do runtime checks, unlike void*.

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        6. Jesper L. Andersen‏ @jlouis666 Jan 18
          Replying to @weberc2 @crusoe_tp and

          You can always just wrap an interface{} in another type and protect against its use. But the point stands: exposing it is roughly the same as storing everything in a string.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Craig Weber‏ @weberc2 Jan 18
          Replying to @jlouis666 @crusoe_tp and

          Agreed; I was responding to the notion that the mere existence of the type should put people off of the language altogether. Type systems are helpful but people tend to exaggerate their importance.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Jesper L. Andersen‏ @jlouis666 Jan 18
          Replying to @weberc2 @crusoe_tp and

          More expressive type systems tend to yield important insights into solutions. I tend to lean toward them for this reason.

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        9. Craig Weber‏ @weberc2 Jan 18
          Replying to @jlouis666 @crusoe_tp and

          I agree in general. I didn't mean "expressive type systems are suboptimal"; I meant "expressive type systems don't compensate for impoverished tooling/ecosystem/documentation/etc". The only functional language that doesn't force this choice is Rust, but it forces other choices.

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        1. Anthony Ramine‏ @nokusu Jan 11
          Replying to @rob_pike @jlouis666

          It’s so weird how you would react about that but not `interface{}` being painted as stringly-typed programming.

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