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    1. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

      [tavʁaj] Ganbold Retweeted (((The Alex Nowrasteh)))

      why do open borders freaks always assume immigrants are a monolith? like there's a knob labeled IMMIGRATION and the only thing you can do is turn it left or right. *some subgroups* of immigrants have *children and grandchildren* who have a higher crime rate than *white americans*https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/1037813886466981889 …

      [tavʁaj] Ganbold added,

      (((The Alex Nowrasteh))) @AlexNowrasteh
      Nativists keep shifting the goal posts. First, they said immigrants have higher crime rates. We showed they didn’t. Then nativists said illegal immigrants have higher crime rates. We showed they didn’t. Now nativists are arguing that only border crossers have higher crime rates https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/1037811596494561280 …
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    2. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

      black crime rates are so astronomical that including them in your baseline isn't a fair comparison. even if you do, there are probably still subgroups of immigrants whose children and grandchildren have a higher crime rate than the native population!

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    3. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

      and *even then*, the native population includes earlier waves of descendants of immigrants, who probably have higher crime rates than the people who were here before them! but afaik nobody studies this.

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    4. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

      and ofc "crime rate" is only part of what we care about - if there are populations that contain much higher percentages of utterly obnoxious shits who don't necessarily do anything *criminal*, they're still making our country worse! it's just harder to measure. crime is legible

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    5. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

      ...except it isn't! *homicide* is legible. but the underlying thing that the category of homicide measures isn't legible - developments in medicine will "lower the homicide rate" over time without changing any behavior patterns.

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    6. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

      if urban areas have better practice of medicine than rural areas but the underlying behavior patterns are exactly the same, urban areas will come out with a lower homicide rate! because better practice of medicine prevents the marginal attack from being fatal.

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    7. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

      it would take an *immense* amount of work to even come *close* to a legibilization of the underlying behavioral patterns. i don't know if anyone is doing this. but i certainly don't trust nowrasteh's crowd to.

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      [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

      if it just so happens that refining the legibilizations makes things look worse... well, expect the legibilizations to not be refined.

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        2. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

          there are many cases of people insisting they're being "rigorous" on absolutely indefensible legibilizations! take the "effective altruism" crowd - the consensus seems to be that the highest-impact interventions are sending bed nets to africa and funding AI safety research. lmao

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        3. [tavʁaj] Ganbold‏ @riyenakshi Sep 6

          any sensible person can look at that and say "wait a minute, sending bed nets to africa isn't an investment! where the hell are your returns?" - but the EA will just drop some nonsense about how you can't measure higher-order effects and should just assume they don't exist.

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