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    1. Riva‏Verified account @rivatez Feb 7

      Riva Retweeted James Ough

      hmm.. if only people were building platforms to openly discuss problems and explicitly incentivize milestones 🙃 people working on this: ( @alexeyguzey, @james_ough, @ethanjaldrich, @jackpetrison, @ProblemsSighted )https://twitter.com/james_ough/status/1093569856065146880 …

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      James Ough @james_ough
      Replying to @rivatez @pfau
      100% agree! Probably a lot of the issues arise from a lack of openly-discussed targets/roadmaps. Obviously hard to generate these from first-principles; but perhaps that makes it even more important to do so... Human cognitive development milestones seem a good place to start.
      2 replies 4 retweets 21 likes
    2. David Pfau‏ @pfau Feb 7
      Replying to @rivatez @alexeyguzey and

      How you could read my thread and decide that *lack* of incentivized milestones was the problem is beyond me.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. David Pfau‏ @pfau Feb 7
      Replying to @pfau @rivatez and

      Incentives are great for driving people to hit clear targets. My whole complaint is that blindly striving to hit targets by any means necessary pushes the focus away from deeper insight.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Riva‏Verified account @rivatez Feb 7
      Replying to @pfau @alexeyguzey and

      ah i see how you're reading my tweet, but we aren't defining the terms in the same way. that deeper insight is the thing we want to incentivize for and push away from the crappy metrics. actually i should email you the draft, i think you will like it :-)

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. David Pfau‏ @pfau Feb 7
      Replying to @rivatez @alexeyguzey and

      Happy to give it a read, but I'm skeptical that insight is even something that can be incentivized. Are you familiar with Duncker's candle problem?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      Riva‏Verified account @rivatez Feb 7
      Replying to @pfau @alexeyguzey and

      it might be hard to incentivize 'insight' yes, but creating funding mechanisms that allow researchers to go off-piste from the traditional benchmarks financially and time-wise might allow for an environment where insight can develop. (will read Candle problem)

      10:17 AM - 7 Feb 2019
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        2. David Pfau‏ @pfau Feb 7
          Replying to @rivatez @alexeyguzey and

          In that case we probably do mean something different by "incentivize". I see a lot of good research papers get rejected just because they don't have a box where their number is higher than someone else's number. That creates certain incentives in the field.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. David Pfau‏ @pfau Feb 7
          Replying to @pfau @rivatez and

          Obviously the only solution is to reanimate the corpse of J. C. R. Licklider.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Riva‏Verified account @rivatez Feb 7
          Replying to @pfau @alexeyguzey and

          that was the first on our list of incentivized milestones... 😂

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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