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Professor of Law and Political Science at UC Irvine; Election Law Blogger. Author #JusticeofContradictions coming March 2018 http://amzn.to/2CoWbzx 

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    Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen Apr 5

    Rick Hasen Retweeted southpaw

    I fear that we will never know the answer because this will be resolved in the arbitration. A lot depends on how the federal court moves nexthttps://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/982018352091672576 …

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    southpaw @nycsouthpaw
    Replying to @nycsouthpaw @McDeereUSA @rickhasen
    Unless Cohen showed her an actual power of attorney signed by Trump with sufficient powers to do all these things in his name, I don’t see how a simple authorization possibly cures this.
    3:38 PM - 5 Apr 2018
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      2. Deepak Gupta‏Verified account @deepakguptalaw Apr 5
        Replying to @rickhasen

        It's black-letter law (in all circuits) that “challenges to the existence of a contract as a whole must be determined by the court prior to ordering arbitration.” Sanford v. MemberWorks, 483 F.3d 956 (CA9 2007). Seems like there's a legitimate formation issue on the table.

        3 replies 8 retweets 28 likes
      3. Deepak Gupta‏Verified account @deepakguptalaw Apr 5
        Replying to @deepakguptalaw @rickhasen

        Here's an excerpt from a brief that I filed on this issue in the Ninth Circuit. Cohen/EC's motion invokes the Supreme Court's decision in Buckeye Check Cashing. But Buckeye's holding doesn't apply to contract-formation questions (as opposed to other contract defenses).pic.twitter.com/xEdBeBF6FG

        2 replies 4 retweets 8 likes
      4. Deepak Gupta‏Verified account @deepakguptalaw Apr 5
        Replying to @deepakguptalaw @rickhasen

        Granted, the Supreme Court's FAA jurisprudence in this area has made things unnecessarily complicated. The distinction one has to apply is between contract "formation" (for the court) versus "validity" (for the arbitrator, to the extent that it concerns the contract as a whole).

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      5. Deepak Gupta‏Verified account @deepakguptalaw Apr 5
        Replying to @deepakguptalaw @rickhasen

        When it comes to formation, a relatively obscure California statute, Civil Code 1558, might be relevant. The rule is that "it is essential" that the parties to the contract "exist" and "that it should be possible to identify them." Another excerpt from my brief in a recent case:pic.twitter.com/Jw3hjid5yT

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      6. Deepak Gupta‏Verified account @deepakguptalaw Apr 5
        Replying to @deepakguptalaw @rickhasen

        I'm less certain about how, if at all, that statute applies to this very unusual situation in which one seemingly essential party is identified only by a pseudonym and does not actually sign the agreement.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. End of conversation
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      2. southpaw‏ @nycsouthpaw Apr 5
        Replying to @rickhasen

        Given the circumstances of Stormy’s representation and the law licenses currently in jeopardy, I just can’t believe there’s a power of attorney signed by Trump and seen by Daniels that hasn’t been mentioned.

        2 replies 4 retweets 22 likes
      3. bmaz‏ @bmaz Apr 5
        Replying to @nycsouthpaw @rickhasen

        Agreed.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Jeff‏ @jefffreyspies Apr 5
        Replying to @bmaz @nycsouthpaw @rickhasen

        If this is what breaks arbitration, or even just NDAs, I’ll do a silly little happy dance in the street.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. bmaz‏ @bmaz Apr 5
        Replying to @jefffreyspies @nycsouthpaw @rickhasen

        I not only don't see how arbitration clause can continue to stand, the more I think about it, think Trump not only opened himself up to depo, but Cohen up to discovery as well. Cohen has no atty client privilege to assert b/c Trump was not a knowing client. No A/C relationship.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. southpaw‏ @nycsouthpaw Apr 5
        Replying to @bmaz @jefffreyspies @rickhasen

        Plus Cohen’s own lawyer has disclaimed an a-c relationship on television

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. bmaz‏ @bmaz Apr 5
        Replying to @nycsouthpaw @jefffreyspies @rickhasen

        Right??

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Aylett Colston‏ @EveryVoiceNC Apr 5
        Replying to @rickhasen

        If Trump is not a party to the agreement which specifies that disputes must be submitted to binding arbitration, then I have a hard time seeing how he can force the matter to be resolved in arbitration.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aylett Colston‏ @EveryVoiceNC Apr 5
        Replying to @EveryVoiceNC @rickhasen

        Trump would not be a party to the agreement if he neither signed it, nor authorized another to execute it on his behalf and bind him thereto.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. End of conversation

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