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Professor of Law and Political Science at UC Irvine; Election Law Blogger. Author #JusticeofContradictions coming March 2018 http://amzn.to/2CoWbzx 

Studio City, California
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    1. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017

      Rick Hasen Retweeted Orin Kerr

      This is where I think your argument fails. Broad meaning of thing of value for non tangible things in this context http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/07/donald_trump_jr_s_free_speech_defense_is_as_bogus_as_it_sounds.html …https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/884631379245498368 …

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      Orin KerrVerified account @OrinKerr
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      10/ Some point to the "thing of value" language, but I think that's just a pretty standard phrase in criminal law to make you sure can't
      7 replies 17 retweets 35 likes
    2. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @rickhasen

      1/ But the statute has a lot more text than "thing of value" that is getting lost in this discussion. I agree, this was a thing of value.

      4 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    3. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      I try to lay it out in a number of blog posts, shortened in slate. solicitation thing of value from foreign person/entity w/knowledge

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @rickhasen

      1/ Unless I'm mistaken, the statute doesn't prohibit soliciting a thing of value. It prohibits soliciting a contribution or donation,

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      I think you are mistaken. Prohibits contribution or donation as defined in (a), which includes donation of thing of value

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @rickhasen @OrinKerr

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121 …

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    7. Andy Grewal‏ @AndyGrewal 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @rickhasen @OrinKerr

      Does the statute prohibit transferring a broader class of items than may be solicited? "thing of value" doesn't appear in solicit rule.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Andy Grewal‏ @AndyGrewal 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @AndyGrewal @rickhasen @OrinKerr

      (Unless "donation" encapsulates both "money" and "other thing.")

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      Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @AndyGrewal @OrinKerr

      both do

      9:21 PM - 12 Jul 2017
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        1. Armando‏ @armandodkos 13 Jul 2017
          Replying to @rickhasen @AndyGrewal @OrinKerr

          It certainly does in the solicitation section- "as described in (a) and (b)"- if Menendez doesn't get overturned this argument is dead.

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