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Professor of Law and Political Science at UC Irvine; Election Law Blogger. Author #JusticeofContradictions coming March 2018 http://amzn.to/2CoWbzx 

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    1. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017

      Rick Hasen Retweeted Orin Kerr

      This is where I think your argument fails. Broad meaning of thing of value for non tangible things in this context http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/07/donald_trump_jr_s_free_speech_defense_is_as_bogus_as_it_sounds.html …https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/884631379245498368 …

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      Orin KerrVerified account @OrinKerr
      Replying to @OrinKerr
      10/ Some point to the "thing of value" language, but I think that's just a pretty standard phrase in criminal law to make you sure can't
      7 replies 17 retweets 35 likes
    2. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @rickhasen

      1/ But the statute has a lot more text than "thing of value" that is getting lost in this discussion. I agree, this was a thing of value.

      4 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    3. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      I try to lay it out in a number of blog posts, shortened in slate. solicitation thing of value from foreign person/entity w/knowledge

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @rickhasen

      1/ Unless I'm mistaken, the statute doesn't prohibit soliciting a thing of value. It prohibits soliciting a contribution or donation,

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 12 Jul 2017
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      2/ and specific kind of contribution or donation is in the form of money or a thing of value.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      we must be talking past each other.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @rickhasen

      Can you cite to the text that defines a contribution or donation as a thing of value in the abstract? That would help.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 12 Jul 2017
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      I think we agree the key phrase is this: "a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value." I read that as having two parts:

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr @rickhasen

      First, a contribution or donation. Second, a specific kind of contribution or donation: one of money or another thing of value.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen 12 Jul 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      yes

      9:14 PM - 12 Jul 2017
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