can you honestly say that Trump won this election legitimately? I'm a bit concerned about the "experts" fear of overturning norms
A game in which both sides challenge the legitimacy of the other's election undermines our democracy and the rule of law. Otherwise nbd.https://twitter.com/Steven_Strauss/status/808428739042414592 …
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Democrats have every reason to believe this election was won illegitimately. Whether you think it can be overturned is different.
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therapist talk here, by denying us this, you're invalidating and gaslighting our own fears. We know what we see.
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I don't think it's that simple. In 2016, the candidate with fewer votes "won" with help from a hostile foreign power and the FBI.
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No, the winner had more EVs, which is how we count
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I'm sure you've already heard many real-life comparisons to explain how stupid the idea of the "national vote" is.
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I've heard a bunch of ppl rationalize a system where the candidate with fewer votes wins, b/c it helped their party.
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What I haven't heard is a convincing, principled, moral reason why a CA vote should only count for 1/3 of a WY vote.
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Why disarm in the face of a real threat? Trump is a true authoritarian. Russia really did intervene. Isn't consenting to all of this worse?
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@Steven_Strauss Maybe it's time to ask some fundamental questions about our political system?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@Steven_Strauss I agree with the point, but wonder about a false equivalency. -
The attacks on Obama's legitimacy were racist bullshit. Trump's is questioned because of Russian hacking.
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I'd personally like more info on hacking before going down the "Trump illegitimate" rabbit hole.
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@Steven_Strauss I agree, unfortunately. Opinion on electoral college overturning vote?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@Steven_Strauss If he did not legitimately (without outside or internal influence) win, why should Dems back off? He's ruinous.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@Steven_Strauss Both-sides fallacy. Cries of voter fraud based on nothing not equiv to Russian interference based on US intel.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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If one side challenges and other doesn't, democratic norms aren't protected. Both options suck; which sucks worse?
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Of course if we were truly a democracy, Hillary would be President Elect.
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But Rs will continue to do it. Ds wont and will lose.
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In this case, it is legit concerns not like Birtherism bullshit
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