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Professor of Law and Political Science at UC Irvine; Election Law Blogger. Author #JusticeofContradictions coming March 2018 http://amzn.to/2CoWbzx 

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    Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen Jul 25

    As i've told a number of reporters today, I'm underwhelmed with the #TrumpTape, standing by itself, as proof of a campaign finance violation (though it certainly gives plenty of reason to fully investigate). /1

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      2. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen Jul 25

        As with the Stormy Daniels matter, there's the question whether the payment made by AMI to McDougal was campaign-related. If it was personal/business (for the paper's own interests or to help Trump with his personal life), the payment is not illegal. /2

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      3. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen Jul 25

        If it was campaign-related and unreimbursed, it is an illegal an unreported corporate expenditure, and if Trump/Trump campaign cooperated with it, an illegal, unreported in-kind contribution to the campaign. If reimbursed, it is an illegal unreported loan. /3

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      4. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen Jul 25

        But the tape sheds little light on this. We don't know what AMI's motivation was, whether there was cooperation with Trump/campaign, whether there was reimbursement. /4

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      5. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen Jul 25

        Now there's some circumstantial evidence it is campaign-related given both timing and what else is discussed on the tape. And that's a GREAT reason for further investigation. But tape alone is no smoking gun as to campaign finance violations. /5

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      6. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen Jul 25

        But speaking politically, it shows how much the goal posts have moved with Trump. For any other president/presidential candidate, a tape like this about potential reimbursement of hush money to pay off playmate to keep quiet about affair would be YUGE political scandal. /6

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      7. Rick Hasen‏Verified account @rickhasen Jul 25

        But a scandal does not prove illegality. The key point to keep in mind is that this is a piece of evidence in isolation. Cohen knows a lot more, and there is a lot more evidence. It may well be proven to be illegal activity. But the tape alone does not resolve the matter. 7/7

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      2. The Old Wags‏ @Huey_G_Newton Jul 25
        Replying to @rickhasen

        Ask Yourself If This Had Been Another Politician Who Didn’t Have A Stadium Full Of Scandals Would It Still Be “Underwhelming”?

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      3. Ronan "a very bad original concept" Delaney‏ @delexical Jul 25
        Replying to @Huey_G_Newton @rickhasen

        Ronan "a very bad original concept" Delaney Retweeted Rick Hasen

        If you read the thread....https://twitter.com/rickhasen/status/1022158176815206400 …

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        Rick HasenVerified account @rickhasen
        But speaking politically, it shows how much the goal posts have moved with Trump. For any other president/presidential candidate, a tape like this about potential reimbursement of hush money to pay off playmate to keep quiet about affair would be YUGE political scandal. /6
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      4. Ronan "a very bad original concept" Delaney‏ @delexical Jul 25
        Replying to @delexical @Huey_G_Newton @rickhasen

        It was a thread from the first tweet, hence the "/1", but you did interject before he got to the issue that's true and you're both on the same wavelength. Never mind.

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      1. Brad Smith‏ @CommishSmith Jul 25
        Replying to @rickhasen

        Test is not "campaign related," but whether "commitment, obligation or expense ... would exist irrespective of the candidate's campaign." 11 CFR 113.1

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      1. Karen Conrad‏ @KMConrad11 Jul 25
        Replying to @rickhasen

        Um... except we’ll have MC to give context. And person on phone, and female voice person, and the persons mentioned, likely. And, like, 😮

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      2. K8‏ @musecian Jul 25
        Replying to @rickhasen

        Now consider if this were Obama, not Trump. Would anyone be overwhelmed and investigating?

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      1. David Williams‏ @dznyc Jul 25
        Replying to @rickhasen

        Is there a plausible scenario in which AMI's payment was "for the paper's own interests?"

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      2. RPM 🇺🇸 🗨️‏ @RPMatthews Jul 25
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        It's evidence of it. It's not proof of it.

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      3. Brad Smith‏ @CommishSmith Jul 25
        Replying to @RPMatthews @rickhasen

        Test is not whether it is "campaign-related." It is "whether commitment, obligation or expense ... would exist irrespective of the candidate’s campaign." 11 CFR 113.1.

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