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Rich Geldreich
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Entrepreneur at http://Binomial.info , Khronos member working on Basis. Ex-Valve/MS,Age1DE,3/Halo Wars/Portal2/DotA2/CS:GO.

Portland, OR
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    Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 29

    "The virtual reality dream is dying":https://theoutline.com/post/6443/virtual-reality-dream-is-dead-hype-oculus-rift-facebook-playstation?zd=1&zi=o6imv7st …

    1:34 PM - 29 Oct 2018
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      2. Maxime Lebled‏ @MaxLebled Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        I'm hardly motivated to put on my Vive these days. It's cumbersome, heavy, awkward, both hardware & software. Finally got done turning everything on & slipping on controllers, VR & audio headsets? Oops, SteamVR is acting up, now I have to take everything off to troubleshoot

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 30
        Replying to @MaxLebled

        Exactly, I'm in the same boat. I had visitors one day and they saw the Lighthouse emitters in my living room. They had no idea it was for VR and gave me strange looks. The thing is just too complex, too bulky, too unreliable, too many wires, driver issues, and it looks silly.

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      4. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 30
        Replying to @richgel999 @MaxLebled

        Few want to basically wear a ski mask on their faces for fun. It's anti-collaborative, anti-social, and looks and feels dumb and isolating. VR development, especially multiplayer, is painful at best. AR I can see a bright future for, because I already wear glasses. VR - no.

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      5. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 30
        Replying to @richgel999 @MaxLebled

        The tech industry is very fashion driven. VR was the prevailing fashion from '15-'17 or so. The insiders have already cashed in and now the hype and money trains are running out of steam.

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      6. yvan‏ @yvanscher Oct 30
        Replying to @richgel999 @MaxLebled

        right but its actually kind of fun. what about that?

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      7. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 30
        Replying to @yvanscher @MaxLebled

        I'm just calling things as I see them. It's not making money.

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      2. Guillaume Dube‏ @dubeg_ Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        I'll have to read this, but Michael Abrash gave a still very optimistic view of VR just a few weeks ago.

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 29
        Replying to @dubeg_

        "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

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      4. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999 @dubeg_

        What's going to happen here is that the innermost players (the Abrashes, Binstocks, etc.) are going to quietly move on to greener corporate or startup pastures once it makes sense from a stock/financial perspective. The VR hypewagon and money train is probably over. AR has legs.

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      2. Jonatan W‏ @jawrxu Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        good. then I can keep my normal maps.

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 29
        Replying to @jawrxu

        lol

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      2. Sandro Manke (闪山)‏ @2dbrain Oct 30
        Replying to @richgel999

        It’s not dying for the first time and pretty much for the same reasons again, but what fun would learning from history be. Who wants to bet on another inflated comeback sometime in the future? 💩

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 30
        Replying to @2dbrain

        I was thinking the same thing. In 10-20 years we'll probably see another round of this, with another group of devs hopping on the VR hype/money train.

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      4. Sandro Manke (闪山)‏ @2dbrain Oct 30
        Replying to @richgel999

        On the other hand maybe (one of the) next time(s) we get it right enough when people don’t actually wanna go out anymore cause ouch climate change. Otherwise agree that AR makes much more sense really. But then I also detest 3D glasses for screens. I might not be target group.🙃

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      1. UnstableStrafe‏ @Straferoo Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        A lie and a half. This is like convincing me that kids don't want to be Harry Potter. Like honestly, has nobody read Ready Player One?

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      1. cancerDev‏ @nickelcitypixel Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        "The media (yes, me included, at least early on) has gone through several cycles" The cycle is overhype and then exagerated backlash, which you're still very much a part of, Josh.

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      1. crertel ᐛ‏ @crertel Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        The dream's not dying...it's just not living up to the same bullshit hype cycle that seems to infect everything these days for every project and game.

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      1. Self Suck King‏ @Self_Suck_King Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        It is a lame gimmick that is being pushed as a way to get more non-gamers to start playing games.

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      1. Unn Dann‏ @UnnDann Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        The problem is that I want to play games with it, not mini games that are fun for 5 minutes.

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      1. TriΔng3l 🔺‏ @Triang3l Oct 29
        Replying to @richgel999

        But VRChat isn't… even though some may wish it was…pic.twitter.com/G9DXU2Ba7H

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