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Entrepreneur at http://Binomial.info , Khronos member working on Basis. Ex-Valve/MS,Age1DE,3/Halo Wars/Portal2/DotA2/CS:GO.

Portland, OR
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    Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 19

    The Cult of Torvalds has finally cracked: https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/after-years-of-abusive-e-mails-the-creator-of-linux-steps-aside … This was inevitable, and I've been expecting it. You can't be this unprofessional and expect nothing to happen. It doesn't matter who you are, how much money you have, etc. - there are minimum standards of conduct.

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      2. ♞Si̓̅͊̈́̆͌̀̚m♞‏ @darksim905 Oct 19
        Replying to @richgel999

        Don't be so sure. He needs serious help. He's pedantic to the extreme & happened to just misunderstand humans are behind keyboards. From the last paragraph, nothing will change if he's seriously thinking an email filter will done things. He just needs to not be a 300% jerk.

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 19
        Replying to @darksim905

        Yea he definitely needs help. Also, he's totally replaceable. He could disappear and the Linux kernel would carry on just fine. The concept of the "irreplaceable 10x programmer" is ridiculous, and has helped enable this kind of pathological behavior. Be professional or get out.

        1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
      4. Andre Weissflog‏ @FlohOfWoe Oct 19
        Replying to @richgel999 @darksim905

        I'm not so sure yet whether Linux will be fine. You need someone who swiftly kill the 99% shitty ideas that people come up with every day. I don't believe in consensus-driven software development, especially for such large projects.

        5 replies 2 retweets 18 likes
      5. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 19
        Replying to @FlohOfWoe @darksim905

        You can kill most shitty ideas without resorting to unprofessional behavior that pushes developers away. It's ultimately just a large kernel, and plenty of other kernels (and other large pieces of software) are being developed without the process devolving into an abusive cult.

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      6. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 19
        Replying to @richgel999 @FlohOfWoe @darksim905

        I would bet that the corporations which fund and develop Linux (and pay this guy's paycheck) finally had enough. Nobody flipflops 180 degrees like this in public unless they were given the riot act by the ones who hold the purse strings.

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      2.  🐸 gab.ai  🐸‏ @salamanderrake Oct 19
        Replying to @richgel999

        I think this is a load of garbage and and the downfall of the linux kernal, and personally I believe they deserve it for cowing to the PC crowd.

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 19
        Replying to @salamanderrake

        It's ultimately not a political issue. The guy was a total asshole and was unprofessional. Most people don't want to work with assholes. The corporations that fund this project don't want to fund projects like this or be seen as supporting and enabling assholes, ultimately.

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      4.  🐸 gab.ai  🐸‏ @salamanderrake Oct 19
        Replying to @richgel999

        Its a double standard system, you are forced to accept people for who they are, except if they offend you, in which case you can claim to be offended and they have to conform to your standard. If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.

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      5.  🐸 gab.ai  🐸‏ @salamanderrake Oct 19
        Replying to @salamanderrake @richgel999

        Its the Assholes of the world that are the inovators, and if it wasn't for this asshole, who freely gave away his project, there wouldn't even be a project in the first place. Also no Apple, no Microsoft, no Automotive industry, no industrial revolution.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6.  🐸 gab.ai  🐸‏ @salamanderrake Oct 19
        Replying to @salamanderrake @richgel999

        Oh, no twitter, no facebook, no google and a plethra other projects/companies.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7.  🐸 gab.ai  🐸‏ @salamanderrake Oct 19
        Replying to @salamanderrake @richgel999

        And muzzling the Cerberus of the Linux kernel will lower the quality of the Linux kernel quality and source code, its all down here from now on.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 19
        Replying to @salamanderrake

        Linus can feel free to start his own corp and fund development himself. But that's not going to happen. He's not giving away his time for free here. He's just a paid developer of a large-scale decentralized software project. The ones who fund this project have standards.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9.  🐸 gab.ai  🐸‏ @salamanderrake Oct 19
        Replying to @richgel999

        He legally can leave and take Linux with him.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Pop Catalin‏ @PopCatalin Oct 19
        Replying to @richgel999

        He thought that’s the only power he had to keep things his way in a distributed world: making people afraid of his reactions! Maybe he could not spare the time to coach everyone. I’m not saying he didn’t do wrong, I’m saying he could have been out of options

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 19
        Replying to @PopCatalin

        Good point. Fear is a terrible motivator. It's basically an abusive software cult centralized around a powerful godhead-like feature. Who wants to work in a North Korean style software dictatorship?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Pop Catalin‏ @PopCatalin Oct 20
        Replying to @richgel999

        How would you push agaist people backed by corporations who had different agendas than you, often pushing crap* because they were forced to do it by steep budgets and cheap managers. Without having any kind of authority over those people? I’m really curious how to do that!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Pop Catalin‏ @PopCatalin Oct 20
        Replying to @PopCatalin @richgel999

        He had to use some form of authority! He didn’t have direct authority. He did have moral authority, but that’s not a roadblock not enough to pushback other interests. I would have hated it to be in his shooes, because I don’t know how to solve this.

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      1. Etienne Cella  🐜‏ @etienne_cella Oct 19
        Replying to @richgel999

        fact, he crossed the line multiple times. But some people (say with autistic traits or else) honestly don't appreciate how hurtful they can be. And there are lots of folks like that among highly skilled techies. It doesn't make it right, but i doubt he realized how far he went.

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      1. Dan Price‏ @g051051 Oct 20
        Replying to @richgel999

        That's a month old story...anything new, or are you just late to the party?

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