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Rich Geldreich
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Entrepreneur at http://Binomial.info , Khronos member working on Basis. Ex-Valve/MS,Age1DE,3/Halo Wars/Portal2/DotA2/CS:GO.

Portland, OR
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    Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 17

    I don't know if unionization will solve anything. I keep telling game developers (or future game devs) that their skills are extremely valuable in numerous other fields. The game industry takes its workers for granted.https://www.salon.com/2018/10/14/time-for-video-game-makers-to-unionize/ …

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      2. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 17
        Replying to @7thsanctum

        If you make it harder for the execs to hire new developers (because they are working elsewhere) conditions for everyone will improve. Right now game developers devalue themselves and their time, so they crunch endlessly, still get paid like it's 2008, and are easily replaced.

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 17
        Replying to @richgel999 @7thsanctum

        The thing is, game devs are a super smart bunch of people. Probably some of the smartest, most talented group of folks in the world. But collectively they have virtually zero bargaining power, they allow themselves to be exploited for their "art", and they've normalized crunching

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      4. Brooke Hodgman‏ @BrookeHodgman Oct 18
        Replying to @richgel999 @7thsanctum

        "I don't know if unionization will solve anything ... Collectively they have virtually zero bargaining power" ...isn't there an obvious link here..?

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      5. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 18
        Replying to @BrookeHodgman @7thsanctum

        Yes totally. But forming a union? There are other ways of getting collective bargaining power.

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      6. Brooke Hodgman‏ @BrookeHodgman Oct 18
        Replying to @richgel999 @7thsanctum

        The normal / traditional way of collective bargaining is to form a formal group to represent you... traditionally called a union. I feel like you've got a lot of connotations / culture somewhere that I'm not aware of / can't unpack here... What are you actually suggesting?

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      2. Trent Polack‏Verified account @mittense Oct 17
        Replying to @richgel999

        While I don't disagree, this argument is one I've seen almost exclusively made by programmers. I have a hard time thinking of an analog for other disciplines in games (game design in particular).

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      3. Rich Geldreich‏ @richgel999 Oct 17
        Replying to @mittense

        Yea, software engineers have it easiest as far as flexibility. But if you aren't flexible and don't have backups the video game industry will gladly exploit you. Figure out how to apply your design/art/etc. skills to other unrelated fields.

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      4. Trent Polack‏Verified account @mittense Oct 17
        Replying to @richgel999

        I don't know, I've spent, roughly, an equal amount of time as a programmer and designer. But being "good" at both — especially now — isn't exactly something I'd wish upon anyone

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      5. Trent Polack‏Verified account @mittense Oct 17
        Replying to @mittense @richgel999

        And not saying transitioning a skill set to another industry or area of an industry is impossible, but I know I've found enjoyable non-games dev jobs (can't say the same about design, but the two are pretty intrinsically linked in my mind too)

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