If I was at a wealthy and powerful self organizing company with all the things I now know, I would have to immediately start a team and grow it then attack some important problem. You can organically do that at a self-organizing firm. You can't just do that at a hierarchical firm
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To grow this team I would just talk to coworkers and convince them to join the new team. It would be an organic process. At each step I would get feedback about the idea. If it's a good idea, people will follow. I would have to be persistent, and good at selling the idea.
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You could say I'm acting as a "Baron". But anybody with the ability to explain the idea and muster the resources can do this. You just do it organically from the bottom-up. It helps to have Sponsor or Baron support, but you don't absolutely require it.
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At a hierarchical firm, as a leaf-node worker or even manager this ability to organically form new teams can be virtually impossible. You would need to engage with the secretive hierarchy and ask for permission and resources, and good luck with that.
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Replying to @richgel999
I've been at google for a little over a year now (as an IC) and so far I've never been told what to work on. There's an over-arching goal of the team, and obv. have to talk things over w/ coworkers, but we kinda just work it out among ourselves.
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Replying to @ssylvan @richgel999
This may not be the case everywhere at google, but it certainly seems possible to have a fairly self-organizing structure within a larger hierarchy.
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"Why self-organizing companies take off - How 2 employees at a Finnish tech firm invented and built a space program": https://nordic.businessinsider.com/why-self-organizing-companies-take-off-how-two-of-our-employees-got-our-firm-to-build-a-satellite--/ … I guess Google is a large enough hierarchical firm that this could happen there.
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I mean it's kind of in-between. At least where I'm at. I can't just go off and work on a space program, so there's *some* hierarchical "mandate" about the general area, but within that it's self-organizing.
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I do believe at a self-organized firm if you made the business case and branded it correctly you could launch your own space program. Seriously.
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