Only I exist & you are a figment of my imagination. Argue against this.
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus
i have nothing to add here that others haven’t said. you can’t just dismiss non-idealist monism by saying it’s what atheist redditors believe while at the same time making lame arguments about ‘consciousness’ that are on the same tier of sophistication
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Replying to @rhyncophorous
But I did. I'm not saying that it's impossible to argue for spinozist monism- I'm saying that the motivation for doing so is entirely alien to me & I cannot fathom believing it in a serious manner. I do the same for Scientologists & Mormons & Antinatalists etc.
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus
All arguments are adhominem, I am asking "what sort of person believes such things" you reply that this isn't good enough & say I am "unsophisticated"- is this not what has occurred?
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus
well if were solely restricted to the domain of the ad hominen, plenty of equally embarrassing people believe in pop-subjective-idealism, and their reasons for belief can be similarly deconstructed and ridiculed
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Replying to @rhyncophorous
For sure- the point is that there is no argument to be made about why one should accept different axioms other than an appeal to a frame of interpretation- it's like saying "this film is actually not good if you think about it this way" etc.
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus
sure, if were talking about spinoza himself. his contemporary descendants cannot be just smugly dismissed in this way tho if one is engaging honestly with the progress of modern neuroscience
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Replying to @rhyncophorous
I don't think you can make the leap that neuroscience implies spinozist monism. It doesn't imply anything but the data it provides.
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Replying to @Logo_Daedalus
im not saying that, but your original thread was about spinoza and his descendants more generally
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Replying to @rhyncophorous
Yes- I am saying that I cannot fathom believing that the cosmos is a material accident & human existence is a contingency of contingencies making a big fuss over a blip on the timeline of empty aeons.
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sounds like a lack of imagination on your part
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Replying to @rhyncophorous
I can imagine it- but I cannot imagine holding onto it as a precious insight of some sort. I can also imagine being momentarily suicidal, but not holding on to this inclination as a "glimpse into the truth" or somth.
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