It's not every day that I see someone I respect calling someone else I respect a "racist bully". I will of course read on. But...
Ezra Klein is to polite to state the obvious, which is that Sam Harris is a racist bully who peddles pseudo-science under the guise of “political correctness” to his adoring young white acolytes and we simply don’t need to take him seriously anymore.https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/27/15695060/sam-harris-charles-murray-race-iq-forbidden-knowledge-podcast-bell-curve?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter …
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Reza is correct
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Peddles pseudo-science under the guise of political correctness? This is the most blatant projection I've ever seen. That's *exactly* what leftists do. You're the ones embracing social sciences in droves whilst ignoring Biology and other hard sciences and calling Math "racist".
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Charles Murray is a racist pseudoscientist. Sorry that there were many of us unsurprised to see Harris glom on to him merely because he was called un-PC. (He's politically incorrect, and incorrect.)
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You don't seem to understand the term "racist".
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Sure
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@SamHarrisOrg is racist? Against whom? -
You're right, bigot is a much better term to use when describing Harris.
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Whom do you feel he’s bigoted towards? People of faith, regardless of race or ethnicity?
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even if that were all he were bigoted against that would be enough. Or do you believe all people of faith are the same and all deserve to be harassed, attacked and looked down on as the KKK did to Blacks?
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I don’t think anyone should be harassed. Do you feel it’s bigoted to attack one’s belief that leads to the subjugation of women?
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Beliefs? You mean like profiling 'beliefs' at the airport? The possibility of having to nuke 'beliefs' in the middle east? Maybe torturing 'beliefs' in a ticking time-bomb situation? Please, stop pretending this is about 'beliefs'.
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Or maybe you mean like how we shouldn't blame the whole New Atheist skeptic community for the misogynistic beliefs of a few of their leaders? Nah, I guess the fact some of them believe it's all harmless fun to sexual harass women, that belief must be applied to them all!?
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@CommDfw, it’s like a disease.
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Absent from these discussions is findings from the human genome project with the consensus that race is a social construct rather than a biologic one. Since 2004 we've known allelic differences between races are fewer than within races. These guys are debating phrenology.
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I think you are both occasionally wrong. This time Sam is wrong, but your childlike denouncement of his overall contribution is going to work against you and is part of the reason I find you less valuable than Sam, In general.
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To be fair, this time Harris is wrong about his belief in "scientific" justifications for racism - which is a pretty goddamn big thing to be wrong about. The difference between "he's a racist" and "he's wrong about the facts that led him to hold racist beliefs" ain't that big.
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You are an opportunist with a grudge against Sam for having exposed you as a fraud. Sam was incredibly reluctant to have Charles Murray on the podcast and expressed in painstaking detail his discomfort with and general aversion to the topic of race and IQ.
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