Ok it's annoying me that people are treating incels as inherently violent. MOST are not. They might hold misogynist views but that doesn't make them all killers in training. Stop demonizing people who are already extremely messed up... Or anyone for that matter.
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I'm really not sure this needle can be threaded. We live in a world that not only celebrates, but demands love, romance and sex. I don't think we can selectively tell X group of people not to define themselves based upon others when everybody else is doing just that.
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Well, I was working with a group of polyamorous people who constantly gaslighted me because I'm monogamous. So I had to do it. The shame tactics were unreal.
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I bet they were. (Not sarcasm). I'm not sure this is the same thing 'tho. These people are the "losers" in one of the main way that our society measures success and failure. I think the best we can do is try to help them not be "losers" in this game, although that's controversial
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Thing is, this particular group were a bunch of sci fi nerds, so they were "losers" overcompensating.
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