Ky Schevers

To be clear: there are lots of good tips all these conversion therapists and conversion effort peddlers have. Scream, get better sleep, set good boundaries and communicate better with your friends and family. Take a break from the internet sometimes.

Yeah, they tend to mix in genuinely useful methods with conversion practices, it's part of how these practices "work". If it was all stuff that made you feel terrible about yourself less people would go for it.

Yeah and also focusing on techniques that feel good and that you are told should work means that when it doesn't work it's your fault that it didn't work and you bury that attempt to fix yourself further with the sunk cost.

That too. It's really mindfucky. It's possible to get stuck in that shit for years, especially of you have other people and/or a whole community "supporting" you in your efforts.

Yeah I can imagine it becomes almost a sort of bravery to persevere with something where you aren't seeing much benefit.

Yes, especially if you're trying to live as a butch woman. There's this whole idea of the feminist butch dyke stoically resisting the urge to "give in" to being trans and how that person acts as a role model to show others they can be "strong women" instead of transmasculine.

There's weird angles I have on this as a trans woman who's rolled butch due to internalised transmisogyny on occasion (not the only reason but it's in there)

Oh, yeah?