Ky Schevers

I did a fun (for me) science thread, but I promised I'd do a thread about trans men, virilismia, and the stigma against ugly women, so let's go! To start out: Are you a trans man whose spent some part of your life being perceived as an ugly woman? What do you make of that?

(this is obviously a point of overlap with transmascs, so your answers are very welcome. Trans women have their own interactions w/ stigma against ugly women, but I'll be talking with and about trans men/transmascs for this thread)

Ugly women (and ugly 'categories' of women like older women, fat women, disabled women) are often left out of discussions of women as a category in a way that subtly undermine their womanhood.

For example, it's common to hear a cis man say "women have so much power over men, one look and blah blah sexist bs" and even if you take it at face value they're using "women" as a synonym for very attractive, young women.

So, how does this category conflation of "woman" with "pretty" intersect with virilismia?