Ky Schevers

Something that's important for people to understand about secular anti-trans conversion practices is that one of the acceptable treatment outcomes is being gay instead of trans. Being gay is seen as less pathological or harmful than being trans and/or transitioning.

This makes it different from many other kinds of conversion practices, especially the more religious motivated ones that are anti-LGBT across the board. But there's a long history of anti-trans medical professionals preferring homosexuality over transsexuality.

Counter to what the "transition is new gay conversion therapy" crowd likes to argue, historically in most cases doctors would prevent anyone they saw as a self-hating gay person from transitioning. They'd use any excuse to stop people from transitioning.

With Zucker, he didn't think it was possible to prevent homosexuality in most cases but he did think you could stop someone from becoming trans. He saw kids growing up to be gay (and as gender conforming as possible) as a better outcome than growing up to be trans.