Ky Schevers on Twitter: "...sexual orientation. You can teach people to control their feelings but you can almost never change the feelings themselves. Ex-gay stuff ends up proving the opposite of what it set out to do. I think we're going to see that with a lot of "ex-trans"/detrans stuff too.… https://t.co/gLs2uYagtw"

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private=sleep/class/study‏ @FireBreath8 Feb 4

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who genuinly believe sexuality isn't innate. They're pretty heavy on conversion therapy rethoric but for het/bi women (think comphet to the extreme) and believe cause we live in a patriarchy there's no way to know if any het relation is genuine. The anglophone ones otoh don't+

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private=sleep/class/study‏ @FireBreath8 Feb 4

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agree. Rule of thumb is in societies where women have less rights and are treated worse the radfems are more extreme and dangerous.

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Roz Kaveney‏ @RozKaveney Feb 4

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I honestly don't know. Personally I always resisted the 'I always knew' trans narrative until I met again the woman who was my best friend at 5 and hadn't seen me for 60 years who reminded me just how much my parents and school used to police me.

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private=sleep/class/study‏ @FireBreath8 Feb 4

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I lean towards it being innate from research done on animais at least for most people but who's to say it's the case for everyone? I think regardless people are hesitante cause it being innate has been part of the LGBT movement for long (born this way) and assuming it's not+

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private=sleep/class/study‏ @FireBreath8 Feb 4

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could mean that bigots would take advantage and preach that people can change (and even if they could who cares it's not hurting anyone but alas) and would make it easy to deny rights. Also could lead to abuse by parents esp of gnc kids in fear their kid will "turn gay/trans".

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private=sleep/class/study‏ @FireBreath8 Feb 4

Replying to @Materialistfem @RozKaveney @reclaimingtrans

That's the biggest pushback, esp considering conversion therapy is still legal in most places and this is under the belief it's not a choice, if it was it would be much worse. I still believe it's innate just like many charateristics such as eye color, part of human diversity+

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Ky Schevers‏ @reclaimingtrans Feb 4

Replying to @FireBreath8 @Materialistfem @RozKaveney

Weirdly enough, "conversion therapy" has helped establish how ingrained most people's sexuality and gender is because it doesn't work. Like researching ex-gay stuff was disturbing but also reassuring because even ex-gay people mostly admit now that you can't change people's...

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Ky Schevers‏ @reclaimingtrans Feb 4

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...sexual orientation. You can teach people to control their feelings but you can almost never change the feelings themselves. Ex-gay stuff ends up proving the opposite of what it set out to do. I think we're going to see that with a lot of "ex-trans"/detrans stuff too.

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