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Not all transphobic detrans people are "ex-trans". Some detrans people develop transphobic beliefs because transphobia is normalized in many detrans support spaces. You can't tell whether a detrans person is "ex-trans" based on their beliefs alone.
I've been researching how people get into ideological groups and much of the time people join a group, get a sense of belonging and then absorb the ideology of the group. So if the most readily available support group for detrans women is based in anti-trans radical feminism...
...chances are a lot of people who join it will end up adopting transphobic rad fem beliefs over time in order to better fit with the group that's giving them support. They may come to think that all trans people are products of patriarchy, should "reconcile w/ their sex", etc...
...but that doesn't mean they're a trans person trying to suppress themselves. Of course those spaces will also attract trans people who for one reason or another can't accept themselves and are trying to "overcome" being trans by absorbing anti-trans ideology and practices.
Different kinds of people end up in transphobic detrans subcultures for different reasons. Some are trans people trying not to be trans, some are detrans people looking for help who pick up transphobic views, some get into ideology to get a sense of purpose. It's complicated.
There are parallels between transphobic detrans communities and ex-gay groups but there are also differences. Both the similarities and the differences are important to note if you want to criticize and resist transphobic detrans communities and narratives effectively.
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