Feel like I should really emphasize this point. This is one of the most consistent patterns I came across hanging out with younger radical feminists, especially lesbians. Most had been radical queers at some point, got traumatized in that community, left and became rad fems.https://twitter.com/reclaimingtrans/status/1351522742718390273 …
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I certainly won't challenge that queer spaces can have abusers in them. Thing is, if all spaces have abusers in them, but folks ignore the abuse in their trans hating space, while hyperfocusing on abuse on trans affirming space, I'd suggest it's not the abuse they're noticing.
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I'd suggest abuse in trans affirming spaces maybe isn't the cause of such transphobic extremism, internalized cis supremacy or something else adjacent to it probably is.
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They put up with or ignore abuse in transphobic scenes because overall they get their social needs met better in those spaces. Not saying this to defend those communities but just to say what I've seen. Often the belonging comes first and then the ideology follows.
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People can also go from being low status in the queer community they left to being high status in the rad fem/detrans community. How people have been treated in different groups they've encountered seems to matter a lot.
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I guess I'd ask, if someone went from low status in an anti racist group to high status in a white supremacist group, is that a meaningful cause for their joining the latter group? And upon what structure is their raised status constructed, if not at least in part on ideology?
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I would say the increased status would play a role and people are likely to seek out ideologies that give them social and material benefits. Ideology can give a person purpose/meaning but it'll get much deeper into a person's head if there are other rewards attached to it.
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I definitely agree. And I'd add that someone who embraces a status afforded them by embodying a hate ideology is probably motivated to some rather significant degree by the hate.
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