Feel like I should really emphasize this point. This is one of the most consistent patterns I came across hanging out with younger radical feminists, especially lesbians. Most had been radical queers at some point, got traumatized in that community, left and became rad fems.https://twitter.com/reclaimingtrans/status/1351522742718390273 …
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There is a whole section of the larger rad fem/gender crit movement made up of ex-radical queers. That's often part of their identity. They attack the queer/trans community because they associate it with people who hurt them.
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Ex-queer rad fems built thier own community. Older rad fems didn't create this, as far as I can tell it grew organically. Older rad fems and lesbian feminists welcome these younger rad fems but seemed surprised when we turned up. They thought most of us were "lost causes".
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There's this story in queer culture about how radical queer activism and theory triumphed over radical/lesbian feminism, which now "everyone knows" is outdated and dying out. Except it's not. It's experiencing a resurgence and winning young converts.
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This story can make it hard for some queer people to see how someone can participate in radical queer culture and then leave it for radical/lesbian feminism. In order to understand this, one needs to see the flaws of the queer community and the strengths of radical feminism.
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If you're not able to see how the queer/trans community can deeply wound people, you're never going to understand why some people leave it and then join (or form) groups that attack it.
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I'm not saying this to attack the queer/trans community. I don't think it's especially abusive conpared to other groups but like all groups it has real problems. Calling rad fems a "cult" can be a way to avoid dealing with those problems.
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It certainly doesn't help that there's a sort of intergenerational shock where third wave onward have kinda misled people about 2nd wave at points straying into misinformation that then feels like you've been being lied to by ppl who helped politically educate you.
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I felt very mislead and deceived when I actually started reading radical and lesbian feminists. I realized I'd been presented with a very biased view of them. Not that some queer critiques of them aren't right but I wish people engaged more with what they're criticizing.
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Also wish people noted connections and similarities between radical feminists and radical queers. A lot of radical queer ideas and culture have roots in lesbian feminism. A lot of older radical queers were lesbian feminists at some point. There's a lot of needless opposition.
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