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    Boris‏ @really_bz Feb 10
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    document.getElementById() with no args throws. What should the message start with? "Document.getElementById requires ..."? "Document.prototype.getElementById requires ..."? "Document's getElementById requires ..."? "Document#getElementById requires ..."? Something else?

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      2. Jake Archibald‏ @jaffathecake Feb 10
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        fwiw I've been asking MDN to standardise on "The path of the object from the global. If there isn't one, use the class name with the first upper-case part lower-cased" So, document.getElementById in this case.

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      3. Boris‏ @really_bz Feb 10
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        I don't have the path information. I have the IDL interface name and the method name, and whether the method is static, that's it. (And note: the document might be an XHR responseXML or whatever, so `document` would be wrong in many cases anyway.)

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      2. Simon Pieters‏ @zcorpan Feb 10
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        Can the message use rich formatting? Using italics (<var>) could make element.querySelector clearer that element is a variable. It's also the convention the @thedomstandard and @htmlstandard uses in their non-normative API boxes. https://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#ref-for-dom-parentnode-queryselector%E2%91%A0 …

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      3. Boris‏ @really_bz Feb 10
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        Replying to @zcorpan @thedomstandard @htmlstandard

        The message shows up in the devtools console, where maybe we could do that, but also shows up in the .message property of the exception, where having the <var> might be a bit weird...

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      2. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich Feb 10
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        Bring back DecompileValueGenerator

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      3. Boris‏ @really_bz Feb 10
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        Let's not, please, especially because in cases when the method is being called via bind() and various such indirect things it wouldn't be able to produce anything useful anyway...

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      2. imma‏ @immaterial Feb 12
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        'getElementById requires... ' - why restrict to document?

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      3. Boris‏ @really_bz Feb 12
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        Because you can have functions with the same name on different types of objects. For example, if `send() requires ...` it sure would be nice to know whether the `send` is on XHR, WebSocket, RTCDataChannel, PresentationConnection, or MIDIOutput.

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      2. Elliott Sprehn‏ @ElliottZ Feb 10
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        Matching the other errors it would be: TypeError: Failed to execute 'getElementById' on 'Document': 1 argument required, but only 0 present.

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      3. Boris‏ @really_bz Feb 11
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        Matching the what other errors? That specific "Failed to execute X on Y" style is only used by Chrome, and is explicitly _not_ something I want to emulate: it's too verbose and hides the actual error too much behind the wall of text at the front.

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