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    1. L. David Baron‏ @davidbaron 13 Oct 2018
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      Probably @bz_moz or someone he delegates to.

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    2. Boris‏ @really_bz 15 Oct 2018
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      smaug might also be good for this. In general, sending an event when navigation starts to the same origin as the currently loaded origin doesn't seem like a problem to me. There are issues to sort out wrt named targeting and whatnot, reentrancy, etc, etc.

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    3. Jake Archibald‏ @jaffathecake 15 Oct 2018
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      Would sending an event for cross origin navigations be a problem?

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    4. Boris‏ @really_bz 15 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @jaffathecake @davidbaron and

      There are issues. Certainly for cross-origin navigations using the browser UI you would not want to expose the URL in the event (something that I expect people want for the pushState use case described above) and you would not want to allow canceling either.

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 15 Oct 2018
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      The idea is cross-origin navigation would never trigger the event. Strictly same-origin.

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    6. Jake Archibald‏ @jaffathecake 16 Oct 2018
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      I don't agree fwiw

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    7. Elliott Sprehn‏ @ElliottZ 16 Oct 2018
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      I think cross origin would be fine if the navigation was initiated by the document itself. You can already capture those by listening on clicks to cross origin links.

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    8. Jake Archibald‏ @jaffathecake 16 Oct 2018
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      Agreed. The event should fire for navigations initiated by the client & targets the same client. A target=_blank link: nope. A cmd-clicked link: nope. User types in the address bar: nope. User regular-clicks a link without a target: yep.

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    9. Boris‏ @really_bz 16 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @jaffathecake @ElliottZ and

      How about "user edits the address bar to a same-origin url"? Think changing the tweet id on twitter. What are the exact use cases this is trying to address? Just capturing link clicks is not too hard, but it sounds like people have complicated logic to capture ... what?

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    10. Jake Archibald‏ @jaffathecake 16 Oct 2018
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      I don't think it should fire the event if the user edits the address bar. Monitoring all page-triggered navigations is hard, especially if some are the result of setting location.href, some are history.back etc etc.

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      Boris‏ @really_bz 16 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @jaffathecake @ElliottZ and

      If history.back is involved, you can have pretty nonlocal effects (i.e. call is in one subframe but the navigation happens in a totally different subframe). Needs some though there. Also need some thought about script in page A setting .location on page B and whatnot.

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        1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 16 Oct 2018
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          I'm trying to understand which of these cases one has to handle to replace current router practice. If they plug directly into popstate events, that clarifies.

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