Max Castle

i don't understand the two quote modifier - so: i do not see why you essentialize ""dehumanization"" as part of this

You said, decentering and eliminating common depictions is dehumanizing. I don't agree with that characterization, I'm just saying it always happens wether you can call it that or not

ok i think i understand your reply better now - yes, there does seem to be something naturalistic about elimination qua elimination, but 'decentering' aims at (and implies) a structural attack that is more directed at some particular features

This is how you'd expect the elimination of a common depiction to proceed thpugh, isn't it? Not by a wholesale rejection of the entire thing from one moment to the other, but by escalating attack against an increasing number of features that may or may no be wholly representative

i mean, i share this representational critique btw, that's the op of the thread but no i wouldn't /expect/ that's how it would proceed - selection by the analogy of biology isn't a continuous curve, but periodization marked by bottlenecks and flatlines

Oh yeah totally, I didn't mean to suggest any linear continuity, but escalation to the point of collapse (think Kuhnian paradigm shifts)

more later then, let's return to """"decentering"""" (not sure what runic modifiers 4 gives)

Oh that I just used in response to you characterizing that which contemporary 'dehumanizes' as central, the point being that what's happening isn't the denial of anyone's humanity, but the dissociation of that humanity from the archetype