even in the hellcommunist conclusions (which I don't think are agreed upon generally) capital escapes and humanity is dusted by nuclear communism.
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The point of the question is that - and this isn't some form of humanism - humans undoubtedly play a key role in acceleration so it'd be silly to just denounce them into the motion as such. This doesn't mean one has to give them agency though.
If they don't have agency then you might as well say this piece of the steel made the nukes. Your question presupposes human agency for the question to be meaningful. But this gets at the basic criticism of r/acc: it's a humanism. So, not that different from l/acc.
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It doesn't presuppose agency at all, humans without free will could make nukes, no? I'm saying, even if we're just a determinate part to a process, we are, at this stage, an important part. And it's interesting to see how the human 'part' might or did go wrong.
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it's not like human production isn't a competitive system. even if a part of it goes awry, they get eliminated for their dysfunctionality.
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The accelerative effects of both steel and humans could be analysed without notions of free will. A big part of the U, R, L debate is to do with the human analysis - whether or not they're free.
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broke: capital needs humans to make nukes for it bespoke: Cthell made humans to get itself shot into space
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>broke: capital needs humans to make nukes for it. Sorry, must have missed all those Ostriches making nukes.
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Again, this is how a humanist responds.
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from the human life perspective, technology is a thing to augment our lives from the technology perspective, humans are a thing to augment technology
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Where did I disagree with this? Humans are a thing to augment technology. Yes. They are however the thing, part, etc. That's easiest to analyse?
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if anything they're a needlessly complicated and failure-prone part, and one we are for reasons of basic epistemology least equipped to comprehend
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Failure-prone, yes, 100%. I'm gonna DM.
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