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The only horror is that horror is no longer possible. Adept with the prognometre. 牛鬼蛇神

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    1. Edmund Berger‏ @EBBerger May 27
      Replying to @EBBerger @brightabyss and

      This is also the key point for D&G in C&S, which is why they eschew attempts to exit the system via grand revolution, but do not see the lock-in as identical to homogenization (and we shouldn't either)

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Edmund Berger‏ @EBBerger May 27
      Replying to @EBBerger @brightabyss and

      Marx in his letters with Vera Zasulich suggested that in a place where the capitalist mode of production never took root there *may* be the possibility of escaping this condition, though the legacy of the Russian agricultural commune that was the [partial] topic of that

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Edmund Berger‏ @EBBerger May 27
      Replying to @EBBerger @brightabyss and

      correspondence was to be primitive accumulation for capital via the Soviet industrial drive, which is a perhaps bitter confirmation of the 'harder' bits of Marx's analysis (and wholly in keeping with D&G's own assessment)

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Edmund Berger‏ @EBBerger May 27
      Replying to @EBBerger @brightabyss and

      All of this is isomorphic to Nietzsche's nihilism as a process of creative destructive that must be moved through - accelerated, even, in his own words.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Edmund Berger‏ @EBBerger May 27
      Replying to @EBBerger @brightabyss and

      I'll also take this opportunity to point out that @ObCap's essay that Land called "fundamentalist" was deemed as such for taking accelerationism thought to its core, by tracing D&G back into Marx and Nietzsche, and that this was something to be affirmed.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. ◉‏ @brightabyss May 27
      Replying to @EBBerger @realMaxCastle and

      Is u/acc a fundamentalist version of Accelerationism in your view?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Edmund Berger‏ @EBBerger May 27
      Replying to @brightabyss @realMaxCastle and

      Yeah. Land introduced both terms and used them interchangeably, but what is important is that it is an attempt to think acceleration-in-itself. I don't see much of a different between this and what ObCap was/is doing (dunno what they would think of that claim though, haha)

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    8. ◉‏ @brightabyss May 27
      Replying to @EBBerger @realMaxCastle and

      And, clearly, the call to avoid politicalization of the process operates as a reminder to just embrace the trajectory (take the brakes off, because they won’t work anyway) to see it through to its conclusion?

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    9. Max Castle‏ @realMaxCastle May 27
      Replying to @brightabyss @EBBerger and

      Sure.

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    10. ◉‏ @brightabyss May 27
      Replying to @realMaxCastle @EBBerger and

      And no one sees how “embrace, and take the brakes off, because they won’t work anyway” makes you complicit the capitalist processes?

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      Max Castle‏ @realMaxCastle May 27
      Replying to @brightabyss @EBBerger and

      I'm ok with complicity, as I generally see the horror that is to come is better than the alternative horror that could come.

      6:27 AM - 27 May 2018
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        2. ◉‏ @brightabyss May 27
          Replying to @realMaxCastle @EBBerger and

          At least you are honest about that. Which is appreciated. What do you see as the horror to come? And what is this worse fate you would like to avoid?

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        3. Max Castle‏ @realMaxCastle May 27
          Replying to @brightabyss @EBBerger and

          Well we are wandering into speculative territory here but... For example, technological advancement is the best path to solve the ecological crisis but such development can only occur through experimentation unguided by political concerns.

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        4. ◉‏ @brightabyss May 27
          Replying to @realMaxCastle @EBBerger and

          Why must it only happen through means unguided by political concerns? Why the must?

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        5. Max Castle‏ @realMaxCastle May 27
          Replying to @brightabyss @EBBerger and

          You can't imagine how politics or morality will interfere in the development of technology? CRISPR? AI? For these two, it is not difficult imagining a left/right coalition standing against it.

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        6. Max Castle‏ @realMaxCastle May 27
          Replying to @realMaxCastle @brightabyss and

          This is one of the chief reasons Land says that China is the future. Confucianism is more flexible on this tech than Christianity (in its left or right variant).

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        2. Edmund Berger‏ @EBBerger May 27
          Replying to @realMaxCastle @brightabyss and

          As I said earlier, complicity imo is unavoidable, so I'm not worried at all about being labeled a collaborater or w/e. And that's what "let go" is about. It's important to keep the "do what thou wilt" plugged in there. You acknowledge complicity, release oneself from the maniacal

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        3. Edmund Berger‏ @EBBerger May 27
          Replying to @EBBerger @realMaxCastle and

          urge to drive the system (this is an affirmation of fate - amor fati), and from there carry out experimentation. Trying to drive the system is integrative, while the logic of the system is disintegrative. It will break you, so experiment in the direction of disintegration.

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