just thinking about reports on what's happening with uyghurs in xinjiang. ppl make a big fuss about this or that corporate action. but what about all the companies that work in china? all the things WE buy? talk is cheap. action? not so much. especially when it's hard
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I think that economies above a certain scale are immune to boycott. that's when government has to get involved with sanctions.
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gov. sanctions don't tend to work with authoritarian gov. that's the evidence from political science. though electorally they are useful to interest groups (see cuba)
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Well, define "worked"
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affect change u want. like in south africa (i think that's the canonical case of working)
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It's all performative. Both the people doing the collaborations and those criticizing. By this logic we should boycott American colleagues, too, until Flint has clean water, until bombs stop falling in yemen, etc.
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i dislike BDS for that reason. i think we mean well, but the USA has been responsible for a lot of shit in the past generation and earlier. it's a democratic gov. too. we elected bush and obama. the chinese didn't elect xiping
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I like your phrase... you can’t boycott modernity. I think we are stuck... and it’s so complicated as you say... also there are so many regimes to boycott if we are going to start doing that... but boycott how- corporate... intellectual... cultural endeavours -
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a little more humility and less self-righteousness would help all around
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Also, science is good and useful, regardless of where it's produced. If a scientific finding saved my life, would I care that it happened to be discovered in a country that does things I object to? Or would I just be grateful?
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the issue came up because there are many scientists who very public about being into social justice. but then they do big-time collaborations chinese nationals which requires chinese gov. buy-in. many ppl think this is hypocritical. i'm not offering and opinion tho i c the pt
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This is very true. You make a good point. People should at least be honest with themselves.
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