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Distinguished Professor, officially. Writes books (see link). Florida man.🌴 Proud to serve the people of California. My views are but mine own.

Davis, CA
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    Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

    Eric Rauchway Retweeted Dinesh D'Souza

    I regret to inform you he is at it again. I'll say again what I said before: someone who relentlessly repeats debunked falsehood has no right to complain when people refuse to debate him.https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1079213393150656512 …

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    Dinesh D'SouzaVerified account @DineshDSouza
    Replying to @DDHarshaw @KristineDaae @KevinMKruse
    Liberal? No. But the fascists were socialists. Hitler led the National Socialist Party, remember? Also progressives like FDR were enamored of fascists like Mussolini. These are facts. W. Post can’t refute any of them so they create & knock down straw men
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      2. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        But let's go on: is it true that "the fascists were socialists. Hitler led the National Socialist Party, remember?"

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      3. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        This canard has been so often debunked that I can easily point you to a rude refutation and suggest for you an urbane one. Both are fine examples of the form.

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      4. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        Eric Rauchway Retweeted Mike Stuchbery  💀 🍷

        The rude one, by the inimitable @MikeStuchbery , is here—now I warned you, it is rude—https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/898254826277978113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E898254826277978113&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indy100.com%2Farticle%2Fnazi-socialist-right-wing-white-supremacists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001 …

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        Mike Stuchbery  💀 🍷Verified account @MikeStuchbery_
        Ok, dickhead, I did this politely to someone else earlier, but now I'm going to rinse you. Prepare. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/898042049261326337 …
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      5. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        For the urbane one, let me quote @RichardEvans36 :

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      6. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        "Despite the … name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism.…

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      7. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        "The National Socialists wanted to unite the two political camps of left and right into which, they argued, the Jews had manipulated the German nation.

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      8. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        "The basis for this was to be the idea of race. This was light years removed from the class-based ideology of socialism.

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      9. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        "Nazism was in some ways an extreme counter-ideology to socialism, borrowing much of its rhetoric in the process.…"

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      10. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        (That’s from Evans’s COMING OF THE THIRD REICH)

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      11. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        This antipathy, between Nazism and socialism, was understood at the time. See for example the reporting of H.R. Knickerbocker, foreign correspondent of the NY Evening Post, who wrote in 1932 from Germany,

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      12. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        "The Nazis hate in about the following order: 1. Communists 2. Jews 3. Socialists 4. France and her allies 5. The Treaty of Versailles"

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      13. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        That the fascists or Nazis were socialists is so obviously wrong and has been so fully debunked by fine scholars that I am confident D'Souza, having had it pointed out to him here, and being eager for acceptance by the community of scholars, will cease to perpetuate this canard.

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      14. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        Now, how about this part? "Also progressives like FDR were enamored of fascists like Mussolini."

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      15. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        This is one of those statements where you have to know something for it to mean anything.

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      16. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        Until Hitler came to power, lots of different kinds of Americans had some admiration for Mussolini; liberals and progressives grew skeptical sooner than others.

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      17. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        As John Diggins writes, Mussolini's US admirers through the 1920s included "countless businessmen” who "waxed rhapsodic over Il Duce as the proper antidote to Bolshevism”;

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      18. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        Ezra Pound (enough said);

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      19. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        MBA types who thought of him as "the ideal industrial executive who 'cuts through' and 'gets things done'";

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      20. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        white Southerners who admired his harking back to an old order;

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      21. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        national socialists; many others

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      22. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        Liberals and progressives were less keen on Mussolini and for less long than conservatives. As Diggins notes, the center and left took…

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      23. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        a "friendly interest … best described as a positive but cautious curiosity, one riddled with doubt about the use of violence and the 'moonshine' pretensions of Fascist aspirations."

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      24. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        As for those we'd today call progressives, The NATION was especially antagonistic to Mussolini, regarding the Ku Klux Klan as the American fascists and insisting that "Democracy works poorly enough, but there is no substitute for it."

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      25. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        As the Nazis drew closer to power, Mussolini looked more dangerous to liberals. Roosevelt would later say that he'd hoped, while Mussolini remained a fascist outlier, that Italy would eventually revert to democratic normalcy, but

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      26. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        when Hitler came to power, he knew Mussolini would be drawn further into fascism.

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      27. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        Roosevelt also hoped through the 1930s to pry Mussolini away from Hitler, in an attempt to isolate Nazi Germany. From January 1933 onward, Roosevelt would try what he could to thwart the rise of Nazism.

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      28. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        And Roosevelt never really worried about Mussolini because, to be honest, he was fairly racist about Italians; as he said, "I don't care about the Italians. They are a lot of opera singers. But the Germans are different. They may be dangerous."

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      29. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        As for Roosevelt himself, he wasn't a fascist. (Shouldn’t need saying, but okay, here we are.)

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      30. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        As Roosevelt said during the 1932 campaign, "Perhaps a Dictator, by suspending legality, could accomplish a ruthless clean-up—but we do not want dictators in the United States. The other penalties of dictatorship are too high."

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      31. Eric Rauchway‏Verified account @rauchway 30 Dec 2018

        Eleanor once asked him if the US wouldn't benefit from a benevolent dictatorship, and he replied (she said) in evident puzzlement that he couldn't understand how she could propose that; there was no guarantee a dictator would remain benevolent.

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