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    Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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    Okay. Here's a THREAD about divestment (and why it's driven mostly by economics, not good citizenship), theories of change in climate / energy, and the power of tapping into self-interested economic motivations among corporates, banks, and investers. Ready? Here we go.

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        Last year I gave a talk for a sovereign wealth fund in Asia. In addition to their CEO and leadership team, they were also hosting the CEO and top executives of a bank with hundreds of billions under management - a bank that was, at the time, lending to coal projects. (1/n)

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      3. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        This talk, to be clear, was a very big deal by my standards. I frequently talk to groups of CEOs, corporate execs, bankers, and investors. But the money under management in the room was pretty staggering - and I viewed it as a huge opportunity to have an impact. (2/n)

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      4. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        Before my talk, the CEO of said multi-hundred-dollar bank asked to meet. I told him the thesis of my talk: That building clean energy would soon be cheaper than *operating* existing coal & even gas generation. You can see that argument here: http://bit.ly/33e3io2  3/n

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      5. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        (You can also see an example of a similar, tho shorter, talk on this topic here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssfbq7PVktA … ) 4/n

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      6. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        The CEO of this bank was visibly agitated upon hearing my argument. "What about these coal projects we're lending billions to now?" he asked. "They're bad loans," I replied. "They're high risk of default. You shouldn't be making them." 5/n

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      7. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        After the CEO conversation, I gave my talk, which made an economic argument for this disruption, based on the learning curves for solar, wind, & storage, & assessments made by utilities (NIPSCO), think tanks (CarbonTracker), & analysts (McKinsey). All of which find the same. 6/n

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      8. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        I went home, unsure if I'd made any impact at all. (As is frequently the case, you only find out later.) 1 month to the day later, I read in the news that this bank had announced a no-new-coal-financing policy. 7/n

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      9. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        Later in the year, I was back in Asia, and got to talk briefly to both the bank CEO and their head of sustainability. The bank CEO grudgingly said "The economic argument in your talk is what we were missing. That decided us." 8/n

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      10. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        The head of sustainability for the bank told me that he'd spent the last several years making a good-corporate-citizen argument for divesting from coal, and it was the economic argument - that coal is now a terrible investment - that actually swayed the CEO. 9/n

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      11. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        There is a lot of energy around divestment these days. @davidfickling argues - correctly - that equity investment (selling fossil fuel stocks) makes little difference. But cutting off project finance from banks can make a major difference. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-19/debt-investors-are-cutting-off-financing-for-fossil-fuels … 10/n

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      12. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        The place where I disagree slightly from David is that most of the divestment thus far hasn't been driven by moral issues. The heads of fossil fuel funders aren't dumb. They know climate change is real. Divestment is mostly driven by economics. 11/n

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      13. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        The lesson from that is that, if you want to close the spigot of debt financing: 1. Keep driving clean energy cheaper. 2. Communicate the future cost trends - based on actual learning rates, not conservative IEA forecasts - to these funders. 12/n

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      14. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        Finally, all of this is admittedly anecdotal. But I've seen it first hand three times: That bank in Asia, one of the largest banks in Africa, and a multi-billion-dollar infrastructure fund that is now starving its fossil fuel investments. That's enough to see a pattern. 13/n

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      15. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        Finally finally, I hope you'll forgive what may sound like bragging. I'm just a messenger. The real credit goes to everyone who's driven down the cost of clean energy, storage, and EVs. My goal here is to share what I've seen work, and to encourage others to give it a shot. /fin

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      16. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        Addendum: In my experience, corporate leaders, bankers, and even EU Oil & Gas COS almost all accept climate change. What they lack is a bottom-line argument to change their organization's investment strategy. That's the missing link. 1/2

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      17. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        Even in Oil & Gas, if those companies saw a way to make as much money in renewables & EVs - or truly believed that their current investments were at risk, you'd see their businesses shift quickly to investing in clean energy and EVs,

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      18. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        Three more thoughts : 1. This is why I fly. A lot. These talks just have far less impact not there in person. (I pay to remove the carbon emissions from my flights via http://nori.com ) 2. The same economic argument is now viable with electric vehicles & soon with oil.

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      19. Ramez Naam‏Ovjeren akaunt @ramez 8. sij
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        3. But unfortunately, the economic disruption argument is very distant with industrial emissions & for agriculture / deforestation, absent strong policy in those sectors. Economics are on path to disrupt fossil electricity and most oil consumption. But not industry or ag.

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