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    1. Lisa Ann Hardy‏ @LisaHardySF Apr 27
      Replying to @migenteyoga @lacuchina @thedailybeast

      Ummm, you all are still not getting what i meant, but oh well. Tired of explaining it.

      8 replies 0 retweets 49 likes
    2. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 27
      Replying to @LisaHardySF @migenteyoga @thedailybeast

      Imagine how tired we are of hearing it.

      5 replies 7 retweets 745 likes
    3. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      Hi Annie :) I'm in the Antipodes too! It kind of feels like you're talking over someone in your anger, & having trouble "connecting" right now. I'm sure you'll tell me that you're very well connected with people around you. Maybe you could role model that, instead of attacking?

      5 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    4. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      I am role modeling. I'm role modeling the absolute non-acceptance that people should be held responsible for the behaviour of incels and psychopaths, that we are somehow responsible because we've failed to connect with the people who insist that raping us is an acceptable action.

      3 replies 11 retweets 309 likes
    5. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      I haven't seen anyone in this thread say that a woman should stay with her abuser. Of course the article is dreadful. Of course people are responsible for their actions.

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    6. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      No, what was said that incels are the result of unrequited love and a connection will fix that. But whose responsibility is it to connect with a person who once you've decided you don't want to be with them, you've essentially signed your own death warrant.

      6 replies 3 retweets 191 likes
    7. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      Personal anecdote: I was married to an abusive man. Complete psychopath, tho' people still don't believe me, because he's charming. I was legally responsible for him, because I married him. I was also a qualified therapist, so: professional pride! Had to end it. Still stalks me.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    8. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @lacuchina and

      I've been a Family & Relationships Therapist, & Conflict Resolution Mediator, where the goal is to help people repair relationships. Abuse is never OK. It's something that must be changed, & I wouldn't tell a victim to stay, even if the abuser makes promises of change.

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    9. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @LisaHardySF and

      I'm sorry that happened (and continues) to happen to you. However the greater issue here is not that people stay in abusive relationships, but that there is an inference that people need to enter relationships with men who are socially inept and inadequate, to "fix" them.

      5 replies 4 retweets 189 likes
    10. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
      Replying to @lacuchina @LisaHardySF and

      I didn't write that post, & you harassed the person who did so that they left the conversation.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Loraine Williams‏ @rainevals Apr 28
      Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @lacuchina and

      Incel being his lifeline and sanity. I do see why Annie would question as she has. Were you truly interested in protecting victims, you'd not be stepping in at this point to tell Annie she's harassing someone.2/2

      7:05 AM - 28 Apr 2018
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        2. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @rainevals @lacuchina and

          What I'm seeing is part of the overall problem: people not being kind, & being quick to judge & accuse. I have never said that anyone should have sex with anyone. It seems that there is willful misunderstanding, a deliberate twisting of what I'm saying. I am wondering why?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Antipodes Annie  🐑 🇳🇿‏ @lacuchina Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @rainevals and

          No, what you appear to be saying is that society needs to make connections, although it is historically shown that even non sexual relationships end badly with these men.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @lacuchina @rainevals and

          It's interesting that you talk about "Incels" in the same way that "Incels" talk about women. You're saying that they are "other" and therefore shouldn't be treated as people. THAT is how they became the way they are. THAT won't solve the problem. THAT perpetuates the problem.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Loraine Williams‏ @rainevals Apr 28
          Replying to @LyannaSpearwife @lacuchina and

          My personal experiences with incels have been being abused violently by them. Any man not "getting any" who defines themselves by it so bitterly isn't bitter & abusive when I meet them becuz I hurt them😉 And yes, labeling monsters is okay & healthy.

          4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @rainevals @lacuchina and

          The fact that there is now a self-identified group of Misogynists (calling themselves "Incels") shows that it's not one person's problem, & it's not going to be fixed by any individuals. Changing the dominant narrative in society is a huge task.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Lyanna Spearwife‏ @LyannaSpearwife Apr 28
          Replying to @rainevals @lacuchina and

          How, exactly, is Annie protecting victims?

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