Sitting here stunned at how many men are new to this. I cannot imagine what it is like to have never seen, heard, or being subjected to this crap. The level of denial and/or apathy to what women have been saying about this for so long is extraordinary.
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It's being weaponized. They feed on each other and then people come in to stir the pot and tell them to arm themselves etc. they are being taught this - you can see it in 4chan, for example
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I wish I had a policy prescription. The closest thing I've seized on is the idea that we need to be looking to the past and figuring out a way to build a private/civil analog to Radio Free Europe. I really don't know how to do that or what it'd look like.https://twitter.com/ragepath/status/930718489534328833 …
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That has classically been one of the recommendations for combating disinformation and propaganda (as you probably know) but the people currently in charge seem to be comfortable with it. Really though, newsrooms just need money. We know what to do
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Yeah. I'm trying to invent a different model, or something. I'm not sure what I'm trying to do. I come out of politics, where the systems are deeply broken. I look at journalism, and the systems seem to be collapsing too. Civil society needs to assert itself from the bottom up.
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I don't think that journalism is fundamentally flawed. What is flawed is how society looks at it: as a cash cow. We offer a public service, not a machine to line some old asshole's pockets
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So this is where the financialization of our society is leading, I think. Journalism is profitable because it is valued. Our financial system is currently built to reward people for destroying valuable things.
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I'm familiar with all the classic arguments about "churn" and "capitalism" and the like. But the reality of our contemporary economy doesn't match the old-fashioned theories and conceits that its supporters or its detractors accuse it of.
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Another area I think we need to be looking into - at least prophylactically - is the old Soviet phenomenon of "samizdat." How does civil society maintain communication when all of its traditional organs of discourse have been co-opted by bad actors?
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TBH, I think I first heard the term after Gamergate - and then saw it used as plotlines in a couple of TV shows (Bones, Criminal Minds) a few years back. But the subculture has been endemic to the internet since the internet became a thing.
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True - although I'm not sure how much of that is attributable to the normal spectrum of male adolescence (which has long been overrepresented online). Male teens go through some ugly phases - even the good ones. The difference here is people preying on and subverting that.
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Yes. THIS. Also consider that SCL/CA have been studying how to radicalize terrorists online using a combination of personality profiling and cultlike behavior. And they are not the only ones. Not all of this is organic. In fact, a lot of it isn't.
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This is where I’m focused - exactly what is the prime motive? Right now, what I see is that this is just one of a number of “disaffected” groups who have become oddly vociferous in the last few years. It’s almost like an outside entity has been slowly stoking various flames...

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