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    Jonathan McIntosh‏ @radicalbytes 10 Jul 2018

    A handful of The Last Jedi haters in my mentions are offering up a fascinating misreading of the final showdown between Luke and Vader in RotJ. I think it's worth taking a moment to discuss because it may help explain why these guys hate Luke’s character so much in Episode VIII.pic.twitter.com/zI9ZY9JL9q

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      2. Jonathan McIntosh‏ @radicalbytes 10 Jul 2018

        The misreading: Luke Skywalker uses his great warrior skills to defeat Darth Vader. Once he’s proven himself in combat and stands victorious, Luke does the honorable thing by showing mercy and sparing his enemy. Thereby saving himself from corruption and redeeming his father.pic.twitter.com/Xf5u9yHcc3

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      3. Jonathan McIntosh‏ @radicalbytes 10 Jul 2018

        What really happened: Luke tries to avoid fighting but gives into anger. As he bests Vader in combat, Luke realizes his great mistake, winning this fight means losing his soul to the Dark Side. The battle itself is corrupting him, understanding this Luke throws away his weapon.pic.twitter.com/QmqkbDyROg

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      4. Jonathan McIntosh‏ @radicalbytes 10 Jul 2018

        Notice that the misreading (above) reframes Luke as a badass warrior and reframes his refusal to kill Vader as an act of mercy stemming from a position of power. This is significant because Luke beating Vader in combat is explicitly depicted as a moment of weakness NOT strength.pic.twitter.com/w5xrQVP9ip

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      5. Jonathan McIntosh‏ @radicalbytes 10 Jul 2018

        The desire of some fans to re-imagine Luke as a powerful warrior who spares the bad guy out of benevolence is consistent with the way male heroes are often represented. It’s the way Batman is framed when he doesn't kill The Joker. But Luke Skywalker isn’t the typical action hero.pic.twitter.com/JALHNEpSyJ

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      6. Jonathan McIntosh‏ @radicalbytes 10 Jul 2018

        Luke’s arc in the original trilogy ends with him not only refusing to kill the bad guy, but refusing to even fight a worse villain. This is why Luke’s force projection standoff with Kylo in The Last Jedi is so perfect. It's the ultimate expression of everything Luke has learned.pic.twitter.com/lts9ydsOft

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      7. Jonathan McIntosh‏ @radicalbytes 10 Jul 2018

        The fact that an iconic figure like Luke Skywalker was explicitly framed as *weak* for fighting a murderous villain like Darth Vader is a pretty subversive message, especially for a male hero in Hollywood. And it’s something that, 35 years later, some fans still refuse to accept.pic.twitter.com/ypBKK3IVZ3

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      2. Mean Smark Callous‏ @SmarkCallous 10 Jul 2018
        Replying to @radicalbytes

        The narrative gets muddied because the Jedi in the prequels are these badass warriors and since the OT came out first the realization that that isn’t working isn’t really spelled out as clearly. Everyone thinks Jedi like PT Jedi and miss all that Yoda and Ben have learned.

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      3. Lily Bargheon  🧙 ✨ 🐺‏ @lil_writer 10 Jul 2018
        Replying to @SmarkCallous @radicalbytes

        Oh please... Leave the prequels alone! They're good! And no, they don't frame Jedi as badass warriors at all. They were way more vulnerability and non-conventional male characters in the PT and people hated on them, Jar Jar being one!

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      2. Amanda Martin Sandino, Ph.D.‏ @mandycandyland 10 Jul 2018
        Replying to @radicalbytes @carolynmichelle

        And a severe misunderstanding of Joseph Campbell— the monomyth is represented in TLJ via both Rey and Luke’s hero journeys. The rewrite campaign really needs to do some actual research if they want to seem like they aren’t just hating on diverse representations in sf

        7 replies 7 retweets 426 likes
      3. Paul Pearson‏ @Bronzethumb 10 Jul 2018
        Replying to @mandycandyland @radicalbytes @carolynmichelle

        Since they ARE just hating on diverse representation in SF, I wouldn’t hold your breath.

        3 replies 2 retweets 459 likes
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