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She/Her Professor in Faculty of Manga, Kyoto Seika University. Translator, shōjo manga scholar, feminist, JSL. rachel@kyoto-seika.ac.jp 日本語は@rachel_thorn_jp(鍵付き

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    Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

    A bit of thread on the way pages are laid out in Japanese comics. When you think of manga page layouts, you may think “dynamic.” Pages tend to pop more than in other comics. It may look like anything goes, but they are able to do that because there are strict traffic rules.

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      2. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        Until the late 60s/early 70s, the rules for panel layouts in manga were vague, as they are in Western comics, but with the added complication of vertical typesetting, which implied at least the possibility of panels being arranged vertically, rather than strictly horizontally.

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      3. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        That is to say, whereas the rule of thumb in Western comics is “move to the right till you get to the end of the page, and then move all the way back to the left and down,” in manga there are cases when you move down rather than horizontally. (Did that make sense?)

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      4. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        Back in the 40s and 50s, if there were more than 3 panels on a page, panels would be numbered so that readers knew which panel to look at next. (Winsor McCay numbered the panels of Little Nemo 100+ years ago, because he did really wild things with page layouts.)pic.twitter.com/YlJxXbGCrf

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      5. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        The innovation that allowed Japanese artists to establish “traffic rules” and eliminate the need for numbering was the banning of the “+” layout, wherein 4 panels create a “crossroads.” The “+” had been standard in sequential art for 100s of years, but in Japan it was a problem.pic.twitter.com/PRLDMzV7On

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      6. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        Here’s a 2-page spread from TEZUKA Osamu’s “Jungle Emperor” circa early 50s, and another from TAKAHASHI Macoto’s “Beyond the Storm” from 1958. Note that both have a “+”. The latter even uses arrows to send the reader left, then right again. (Red +s added for emphasis.)pic.twitter.com/xnf2iDM1XG

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      7. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        That was standard at the time, and the fallback rule then was the American one: When in doubt, move horizontally. Now, here are a couple of spreads from about 10 years later, from CHIBA Tetsuya’s “Tomorrow’s Joe” and TAKEMIYA Keiko’s “In the Sunroom.” No more “+s”.pic.twitter.com/nB99qgGEHU

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      8. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        All that’s left are “Ts”, and those Ts do a lot of work. They are the traffic signals. When I’ve tried to explain what I call the “T Rule” in words, it’s gotten really complicated really quickly. Think of it as code using a series of IF THEN statements.

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      9. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        In a nutshell, the rule is “Cross the stem of the T before you cross an arm (except when you shouldn’t).” Though hard to explain, almost every Japanese below the age of 60 knows this rule and processes it INSTANTANEOUSLY, yet THEY ARE UTTERLY UNAWARE THAT THEY KNOW SUCH A RULE.

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      10. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        I used my son (now 25) as a guinea pig to see when Japanese learn the T Rule. At 6 and 7, he still got panel order wrong, but by the time he was 8, he had mastered the rule and never got panel order wrong. (Thank you for your cooperation, son.)

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      11. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        The T Rule has major implications. The average Japanese can read a 200-page manga paperback in about 20 minutes. Can you read 200 pages of English-language comics in 20 minutes? I can’t. The manga reader ALWAYS know where to look next, because the traffic signals are clear. ZOOM!

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      12. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        I would argue that the development of the T Rule helped fuel the manga boom of the 70s and 80s by helping artists pump out pages more quickly and by helping readers read more quickly. (Japanese above the age of 60 can’t read manga this quickly, b/c they never learned the T Rule.)

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      13. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        But the T Rule creates an impediment to non-Japanese comics in Japan. Japanese readers quickly become tired and irritated by Western comics, because those comics don’t follow Japanese traffic rules. Japanese readers would be genuinely confused by this page from The Mighty Thor.pic.twitter.com/eCVLNfTOvZ

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      14. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        Of course, when you make rigid rules, you gain efficiency, but you lose flexibility. There are legitimate artistic reasons to want to use a “+” layout, but that choice is pretty much closed off to Japanese artists. An artist who wants to use it will have to fight their editor.

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      15. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        So tell me. Are you ever confused by the layouts in Western comics (or manga, for that matter)? Would Western comics benefit from rigid traffic rules, or are the current vague rules of thumb adequate? TBH, I am in awe of the T Rule, but also feel it may be too restrictive.

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      16. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        BTW, although this rule has been in place for 50 years, to the best of my knowledge, I’m the first person to give it a name and try to articulate precisely what it does. If an artist breaks it, the editor just says, “This is confusing. You should bump this over/down.”

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      17. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 19 Jan 2018

        People talking about the history of manga just say, “They made layout rules around this time so they wouldn’t need panel numbers anymore.” You would think someone like NATSUME Fusanosuke would have noticed & talked it in his work on manga, but nope.

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      18. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 20 Jan 2018

        Another BTW, these are the examples I draw on the whiteboard to explain the T Rule to my students. I draw both and ask students to tell me the order of the panels. Once in a while a student overthinks it and gets it wrong, but almost all of them get it right.pic.twitter.com/KOJsgKBOgK

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      19. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 20 Jan 2018

        If Golden Age Jack Kirby drew the above pages, the panel order would be the same for both. "Across, then down" was his cardinal rule, and he didn't care about the orientation of his Ts.pic.twitter.com/WRyrfk1uic

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      20. Rachel Thorn‏ @rachel_thorn_en 21 Aug 2018

        Unroll @threadreaderapp

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