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    1. Gary Basin  ❄️‏ @garybasin Nov 17
      Replying to @justindross @rabois and

      True. I haven’t looked at the papers Alexey worked from, but the first thing that comes to my mind with this kind of data is causation vs correlation. It’s similar to the weight vs mortality risk models: Sick people tend to be underweight, and sleeping a lot, etc.

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    2. Keith Rabois‏ @rabois Nov 17
      Replying to @garybasin @justindross and

      it is causal.

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    3. Keith Rabois‏ @rabois Nov 17
      Replying to @rabois @garybasin and

      the evidence of sleep on perfromance and productivity is unequivocal.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. Alexey Guzey‏ @alexeyguzey Nov 17
      Replying to @rabois @garybasin and

      That is true! I never argue that sleep is not important. I argue that 1) Why We Sleep is scientifically inaccurate, despite Walker's claiming the opposite 2) people should sleep as much as they need and this varies a lot. Walker claims 8 hours is recommended, which is not true.pic.twitter.com/GeF5L34LLh

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    5. José Luis Ricón (Artir)‏ @ArtirKel Nov 17
      Replying to @alexeyguzey @rabois and

      I just checked the book (The Telomere Effect). The study that's perhaps referred to here(Which Walker also mentions, the one about the civil servants) is an association study, not causal.

      2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    6. José Luis Ricón (Artir)‏ @ArtirKel Nov 17
      Replying to @ArtirKel @alexeyguzey and

      The one claim for "missing a night of sleep /sleeping badly" says it increased the levels of cortisol.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Alexey Guzey‏ @alexeyguzey Nov 17
      Replying to @ArtirKel @rabois and

      is short-term increase in cortisol unhealthy? or is it just a temporary stress reaction like an increased heart rate during exercise?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. José Luis Ricón (Artir)‏ @ArtirKel Nov 17
      Replying to @alexeyguzey @rabois and

      I haven't even checked the paper itself, that's a separate question. But causally, it strikes me as odd that just a night of sleep would cause anything to telomeres. As far as I could find online ("rct telomere sleep") that has not been tested.

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    9. Keith Rabois‏ @rabois Nov 17
      Replying to @ArtirKel @alexeyguzey and

      see also on why association studies are often better than alleged cauaal ones.pic.twitter.com/TI4VAFNtNe

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    10. Alexey Guzey‏ @alexeyguzey Nov 17
      Replying to @rabois @ArtirKel and

      Hi Keith - have you seen this paper by @talyarkoni? https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152719 … (or his post https://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2016/06/11/the-great-minds-journal-club-discusses-westfall-yarkoni-2016/ …) it shows that controlling for confounding variables is much more difficult than people tend to believe. Usually data for controls is noisy, so effect is not isolated

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      Keith Rabois‏ @rabois Nov 17
      Replying to @alexeyguzey @ArtirKel and

      yes but the implication of that paper is the opposite of what you are suggesting.

      1:37 PM - 17 Nov 2019 from San Francisco, CA
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        1. Alexey Guzey‏ @alexeyguzey Nov 17
          Replying to @rabois @ArtirKel and

          I don't think I follow. Could you explain?

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