True. I haven’t looked at the papers Alexey worked from, but the first thing that comes to my mind with this kind of data is causation vs correlation. It’s similar to the weight vs mortality risk models: Sick people tend to be underweight, and sleeping a lot, etc.
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Replying to @rabois @garybasin and
the evidence of sleep on perfromance and productivity is unequivocal.
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That is true! I never argue that sleep is not important. I argue that 1) Why We Sleep is scientifically inaccurate, despite Walker's claiming the opposite 2) people should sleep as much as they need and this varies a lot. Walker claims 8 hours is recommended, which is not true.pic.twitter.com/GeF5L34LLh
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I just checked the book (The Telomere Effect). The study that's perhaps referred to here(Which Walker also mentions, the one about the civil servants) is an association study, not causal.
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Replying to @ArtirKel @alexeyguzey and
The one claim for "missing a night of sleep /sleeping badly" says it increased the levels of cortisol.
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is short-term increase in cortisol unhealthy? or is it just a temporary stress reaction like an increased heart rate during exercise?
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Replying to @alexeyguzey @rabois and
I haven't even checked the paper itself, that's a separate question. But causally, it strikes me as odd that just a night of sleep would cause anything to telomeres. As far as I could find online ("rct telomere sleep") that has not been tested.
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Replying to @ArtirKel @alexeyguzey and
see also on why association studies are often better than alleged cauaal ones.pic.twitter.com/TI4VAFNtNe
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Hi Keith - have you seen this paper by
@talyarkoni? https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152719 … (or his post https://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2016/06/11/the-great-minds-journal-club-discusses-westfall-yarkoni-2016/ …) it shows that controlling for confounding variables is much more difficult than people tend to believe. Usually data for controls is noisy, so effect is not isolated2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
yes but the implication of that paper is the opposite of what you are suggesting.
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I don't think I follow. Could you explain?
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