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    1. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      "Meanwhile", an observer who saw Charles die first would consider Elizabeth to continue as Queen. On observing Elizabeth's death, they would consider the throne to have passed to her second child, Prince Andrew (I think?)

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    2. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      These two observers, one having observed the throne to pass to William and one having observed the throne to Andrew, would then meet up and have a relativistic royal succession crisis

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    3. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      One way to resolve this dispute would be to recognise an official neutral legal relativistic frame of reference, and take the observations from this frame of reference as authoritative, rather than those of any subjective observer

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    4. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      Another is to extend the concept I mentioned earlier where no two legal events may happen "simultaneously" to mean that no two legal events may be separated by a spacelike curve

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    5. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      This second solution seems less practical in a scenario where the Queen and Prince Charles might be on separate starships journeying to or from distinct distant stars at relativistic speeds

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    6. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      If the neutral frame of reference is Earth, the first solution is also impractical because, if you were near Elizabeth at the time she died, it would be impossible to know who was the new monarch without consulting Earth, a round trip of potentially years

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    7. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      So I guess what you'd do is pick the *current monarch*'s frame of reference as authoritative?

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    8. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      So it doesn't matter if, in your frame of reference, Charles died first. In Elizabeth's frame of reference, Charles was her successor in her forward light cone and that's what counts

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    9. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      This leads to a scenario where, in a relativistically colonial fashion, Charles was only ever monarch over a tract of spacetime which he was unable to ever visit or actively rule, due to being spacelike-separated from it

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    10. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      Ah, it looks like succession doesn't work in the way I described, William ends up monarch no matter what

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      quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 30 Aug 2019
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      Okay, instead imagine a new scenario where William is *being born* right at the same instant that Charles dies, so the question is how the line of succession gets juggled

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        2. Osvaldo Doederlein‏ @opinali 30 Aug 2019
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          All this is only a problem.if the two events are exceedingly close in time, or distant in space. In everyday conditions, there is no frame of reference that will observe inverted order.

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          Nobody cares about everyday conditions!

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        1. Daniel Houck‏ @daniel_houck 30 Aug 2019
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          I believe the CoE currently allows divorce under some cases. So imagine: the current monarch's spouse is pregnant. They get a divorce, the monarch remarries, and their new spouse gets pregnant. They two births are spacelike separated. Who's the firstborn?

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        1. (((theophilus)))‏ @pammalamma 30 Aug 2019
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          I love stuff like this. The impossibility of simultaneous events sounds like the impossibility of hitting a bullseye right in the middle, which I believe to be caused by incompatibility between the real world and Descartes. Timeline and number line are fractal, infinitely deep.

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        1. wychwood‏ @whichwould 30 Aug 2019
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          No, it's still William even if Charles dies before his birth, I think - there'll be a Regency, but as long as the wife is pregnant before the title-holder dies, the unborn child inherits regardless

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        1. Log‏ @logfromblammo 11 Sep 2019
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          After being released from containment, the crown wave expands at lightspeed until it intersects the heir, which then releases a succession wave that destructively interferes with the crown wave.

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        1. Elias Tandel‏ @etandel 1 Nov 2019
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          It is clear to me that succession laws should be commutative so that it it doesn't depend on the exact order of events. It is however very likely that this requirement makes inheritance-based laws impossible.

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