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    1. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 1 Mar 2019
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      I saw the line "Our goal is to make coding 100x easier, which we believe will allow a billion people to build software" in this essay about the new Dark programming language and my immediate instinct was to write something sarcastic and cruel, HOWEVER, nopic.twitter.com/G353tevBtV

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    2. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 1 Mar 2019
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      Dark, as described in the essay (https://medium.com/darklang/the-design-of-dark-59f5d38e52d2 …), is more of a platform/toolchain than a simple programming language. Web/mobile dev is absurdly complicated right now and Dark's objective seems to be to absorb as much of that complexity as possible. That's decent

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    3. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 1 Mar 2019
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      I agree that the complexity is excessive and intimidating. I doubt anybody agrees that the complexity is one hundred times what it should be. I think the multiplier is closer to 2 than 100, but I could certainly stand to have my job made twice as easy

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    4. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 1 Mar 2019
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      I think the creators of Dark could be underestimating the essential complexity of the task they're aiming to make easier. Once a little of the accidental complexity is streamlined/absorbed, it's not too long before you start removing/hiding things that we actually need

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    5. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 1 Mar 2019
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      But this in itself is not a bad thing. A simpler platform which is strictly less capable can be much more accessible and, then, popular. Limitations can drive ridiculous creativity. That's the best reading of Dark, I think

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    6. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 1 Mar 2019
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      When they talk about having a text editor which simply doesn't allow syntax errors, I'm reminded of Scratch and Logo and whatever that other teaching language is where there's no such thing as a syntax error at all

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      quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 1 Mar 2019
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      Software development isn't going to be a hundred times easier, and a billion people aren't going to become software developers. This is nonsense optimism. But Dark doesn't seem likely to actively damage the world, so I'm going to hold off on the withering scorn for a bit

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        1. Austin Hicks‏ @camlorn38 1 Mar 2019
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          No one thinks about accessibility up front, which is why we have Discord's clusterfuck, and IDEs are the big offender in programming land. Microsoft sort of has this problem but *technically* has command line compilers and build systems.

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        2. Austin Hicks‏ @camlorn38 1 Mar 2019
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          I don't like it because it may become the first mainstream programming language of which I am awaer to lock blind people out 100%.

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        3. Paul Biggar‏ @paulbiggar 1 Mar 2019
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          Thanks for flagging this! It's definitely on our radar, and we plan to pay attention to a11y; not just basic aria support, but also testing with screenreaders, braille display, zoom, etc. We expect to hire web a11y expertise and not just wing it.

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        2. Paul Biggar‏ @paulbiggar 1 Mar 2019
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          Thanks, appreciate this! I agree 100x is optimism, though those of us with more experience see much less complexity than our newer colleagues. "Hiding things that we need": we're mindful of this, and want ability to add complex constraints (eg choose your CAP flavor for storage)

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        3. Rowan Tommins‏ @Stavron 1 Mar 2019
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          That makes it sound like every problem has already been solved, you just need to fill out a questionnaire and the perfect data store (or whatever other component) can be dropped in transparently. Where does that leave innovation? How can you abstract ideas that don't yet exist?

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        1. Enye Word‏ @EnyeWord 1 Mar 2019
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          How would you quantify "software development 100x easier"? Just curious so I can compare predictions to future outcomes.

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