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    1. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 17 Aug 2018
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      Machines aren't going to take over the world, they're going to be given control of the world

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    2. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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      Machines are going to be given control of the world regardless of their fitness for that purpose

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    3. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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      Now, humans in positions of power make bad decisions too. So a perfectly reasonable question is, why is replacing a human decision-maker with a machine decision-maker bad? Well, a bunch of reasons:

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    4. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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      Firstly, a machine is able to make unimaginable numbers of terrible decisions in the amount of time a human takes to make just one. This constitutes a denial-of-service attack on common decency

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      quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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      The process for challenging and overturning terrible decisions made by the machine is likely to still be manual/physical/human, and therefore orders of magnitude slower to operate, making it impossible to keep up with its mistakes

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        2. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          Secondly, as the venerable James Mickens explains in his latest talk, machine learning is not merely inscrutable but an inscrutable *layer* which sits between very important real-world decision-making and training data sets of incalculable bias and hatred https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajGX7odA87k …

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        3. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          This makes questions like "Why did the machine decide to grant this person a loan but not that one?" and "Why did it flag this person for investigating but not that one?" and, most importantly, "HOW DO WE STOP IT DOING THAT?" unanswerable

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        4. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          Thirdly, transference of responsibility. Do you see the mistake I made in the preceding few tweets? I talked about the machine's bad decisions, the machine's inscrutable behaviour, the machine's implacability. A machine is not responsible. A machine is installed by a human being

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        5. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          Humans build the training data sets. Humans pick which data sets to use in the training. Humans implement the training algorithms. Humans decide *when* the machine is adequately trained. Humans install the machine. Humans decide whether to honour the machine's decisions

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        6. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          So there you are, wrestling futilely with a system which persistently denies that you are who you are, while the engineers and managers who put you and this machine in the same room in the first place never enter your mind and in any case cannot be reached for comment

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        7. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          Are you with me so far? This is all humdrum so far. Bias creeps in, undesired behaviour oozes out. Humans make errors and the machine amplifies those errors Now the ugly part. What happens when we subtract good faith from this picture?

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        8. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          What if you WANT to create a biased machine? What if, based on everything I've just said, you've realised, correctly, that a biased machine is a highly effective, highly deniable way to deliver your bias?

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        9. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          In Mickens' "Tragedy of Darth Tay the Bigoted" the causes and effects are incredibly stark and easy to unthread. If an attacker has control over the A.I.'s training data, of *course* the resulting A.I. will misbehave

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        10. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          So what happens if any of the humans listed below is an attacker? And the system they're attacking is the very important real-world system which they are all nominally working together to automate? The criminal justice system or the healthcare system?https://twitter.com/qntm/status/1030837348630708224 …

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          Humans build the training data sets. Humans pick which data sets to use in the training. Humans implement the training algorithms. Humans decide *when* the machine is adequately trained. Humans install the machine. Humans decide whether to honour the machine's decisions
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        11. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          Mickens gives a high-level goal of computer security as "ensuring that systems do the right thing, even in the presence of malicious inputs". In a machine learning scenario, inputs come from a whole lot of places which are not the user

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        12. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          Or, of course, you can secretly replace the "A.I."/"machine decision-maker" with a highly biased human or collection of humans Yeah, you were randomly selected by this button which I press when I want the machine to randomly select you

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        13. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          * Machine learning is money laundering for bias * Machine learning is money laundering for responsibility * People do not launder their money by ACCIDENT * Assign responsibility to humans

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        14. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          Machines are going to be given control of the world so that they can more effectively and deniably implement the biases of the people who create and install them

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        15. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          So to sum up, generally I agree with James Mickens but I prefer to read less incompetence and more malice into the machine learning situation. I think this is a sound and necessary defensive strategy, regardless of the actual amount of malice involved

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        16. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          "No, I'm not paranoid! I'm just rigorously going through the *motions* of paranoia in case your machine learning algorithm *inadvertently* goes through the *motions* of drilling a hole in the keel of human civilisation"

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        17. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          Passive-aggressively assume good faith. "How did you ensure that this system does not reflect your own biases? How did you ensure that this system can't be used for abuse? ...You're looking uncomfortable. Don't worry, we can extend this meeting for as long as necessary"

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        18. quarantine 'em‏ @qntm 18 Aug 2018
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          This is also a good one, neglected to add it to the thread. Reason 2.5 for not replacing humans with machines in important decision-making roleshttps://twitter.com/nyanotech/status/1030898183369457664 …

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          One more, a lot of people assume machines are always infallible and correct, and won't even think to question it's output to begin with
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