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Yeah sure, the one who lives to the oldest age is the sure winner, everyone else is a loser in comparison. I bet you don't even know who that person is without some research, yet there are winners you can point out around you without any hesitation.
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No. Evolution winners pass their genes to the their heir, and (ideally) make sure that the heir will survive. It doesn't matter who lives to what age. Since the humans all die in nuclear war their genes are lost and they are losers. And rodents are among the winning side.
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You do make a good point. But it is odd you seem to understand the theory of evolution so well in one espect, but ignorant of it entirely in another espect. You would have to say some genes are winners, and 99.99% others are losers, and that would have proved your "theory" wrong.
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Well, those who die out are losers for sure. Those who live are still in the game, not final winners, but participants at least. And these rodents will have a chance to evolve into something as intelligent as current humans are. Probably will take another billion years though.
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You are avoiding the issue here. If your method of comparing winners and losers leads to the conclusion that almost all have been losers, and almost none (statistically speaking, another scientific method we use) is a winner, then your method is logically flawed.
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I can't see why is it flawed. There's usually one winner (or a small group) at the end of the game. If everyone will be a winner, what a game it would be?
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As a proper analogy, you would have to imagine a game played by 10,000 people, and in the end, only 1 is the winner, and all 9,999 are literall called losers. Yes such method is logically flawed.
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But that's how games work. Olympics, for example. Yeah, there are these cooperative win/win games, but evolution is not of that kind, I'm afraid.
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Please stop. Find one game with 10,000 players, where 9,999 are labeled losers, one labeled winner. You correctly brought up the gene narrative, a cornerstone of the theory of evolution, and I pointed out for this very reason, evolution is not about winners and losers.
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