For example, discussions of herd immunity, when to go back to work and how, the next waves, prioritizing risks, etc. all have to be had. The stock market isn't a humane priority or reason but there will be painful trade-offs and we have to talk about them.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1242266044418404352 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci
By the way, here's my thread from January 29th about that NEJM paper mentioned in the article. More with similar findings came out right after that. That's what I mean, we wasted February. It was right there us but we kept hearing what about the flu.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1222662053329924098 …
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zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynepSo far,#nCoV2019 has some features more favorable than SARS (no super-spreaders identified yet etc.) BUT@NEJM paper says some have atypical presentation: gastro symptoms or mild clinical presentation. (SARS came with high fever). Translation: we need maybe millions of tests.
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Thread from a month ago.
https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1232352734990520331 …zeynep tufekci added,
zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep"We get the flu every year." You know what will happen if we hit COVID-19 unprepared? More people will die of... the flu. And everything else. On top of COVID-19. We have only so many hospital beds, ventilators, ICUs. To be ready means we are ready to flatten the curve—buy time.Show this thread2 replies 33 retweets 182 likesShow this thread -
It's going to be like the 2016 election, isn't it? Many journalists did amazing reporting since, but there really hasn't been any systematic reckoning among traditional media and punditry about their own role in all of it. (They'll talk about the tech part, though). So with this.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jay Rosen
Yep. Lack of reflection among media and pundits that made all this so much worse is mindblowing. All of February, I watched people locally use those “what about the flu/travel bans don’t work/don’t overreact” articles to decide go on trips and conferences.https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1242647591990562816 …
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Judging by the way everyone’s already ignoring how wrong and dangerously misleading so many liberal/traditional pundits/papers were up until early March, I say they will do fine. Every tribe is blind to themselves.https://twitter.com/amy_siskind/status/1242801225449562112 …
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Amy Siskind 🏳️🌈Verified account @Amy_SiskindThere are a lot of people whose reputations will never recover from this era. “Fox's Brit Hume says it’s an “entirely reasonable viewpoint” to expect that grandparents would be willing to die to protect the economy.” https://www.mediamatters.org/brit-hume/foxs-brit-hume-says-its-entirely-reasonable-viewpoint-expect-grandparents-would-be …6 replies 32 retweets 232 likesShow this thread -
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And even that was not a great question. Look, some of the people I'm criticizing here include my friends and circles. They're human, the mistakes are human but the problem is the things are set-up. Can't fix that without admitting failure.https://twitter.com/livebeef/status/1242853462209150977 …
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🦎 Curious Reptile 🦎 @livebeefReplying to @zeynepI've not seen a single reporter or outlet admit fault. No humility. In some cases historical revisionism by claiming this was primarily Trump's fault. Which, while it was substantively his fault, it was also substantively the traditional media's fault at a pivotal time.4 replies 20 retweets 124 likesShow this thread -
I don't agree with everything in this piece, but it's good. I was alarmed in January and switched in February to try to warn people and get pundits to stop writing "what about the flu" and "don't panic" pieces and got lectured and/or failed. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/why-was-it-so-hard-to-raise-the-alarm-on-coronavirus.html …pic.twitter.com/Tixr5TTzHo
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Look at the catastrophe unfolding in NYC. It will soon be perhaps the worst hit place globally, and it's not a coincidence that it's the center of exactly that kind of "what about the flu/don't panic" pundit-world/media. Yes it's hard to hear but this is not just a Trump failure.pic.twitter.com/5AJWK7evn4
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A trustworthy "radical" response that would have bent the curve could ONLY have come from government. The media "don't panic" ethos might have explained a bit of what was in the air, generally but does NOT EXPLAIN the CDC and FEDERAL & STATE GOVTS not taking this seriously
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Pundits writing differently about the issue back a month does not matter; we should have had a coherent & good GOVT response that was not paying any attention to the nattering of pundits.
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What's your answer to pundits recommending people go out and play? Think that's the point that was being made.pic.twitter.com/lNRZLklRP7
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Zeynep, looking back at your posts on this
, you won't find specific examples other than DeBlasio & NYC officials. Reference to Klain (which I bet others forgot, too) helps buttress your argument. Still though, doesn't take away guilt of any branch of gov't w responsibility.0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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