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    1. Monoid Mary‏ @argumatronic 29 Apr 2018

      if you know someone IRL and see them presenting themselves on twitter as someone quite different, does it bother you?

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    2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 29 Apr 2018
      Replying to @argumatronic

      I think a few people feel liberated by having an online persona which they can't reify IRL. In all the cases I'm thinking of, the online persona is more caustic and opinionated, and I suspect social unacceptability is the reason it gets constrained to online life.

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    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 29 Apr 2018
      Replying to @propensive @argumatronic

      But it always makes me wonder, which persona is more the façade, and which is more the reality? I'm a bit torn between distrusting someone who presents two conflicting personae, and being happy for them for having found an outlet to express themselves.

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    4. Monoid Mary‏ @argumatronic 30 Apr 2018
      Replying to @propensive

      it seems like you could be happy for them and also distrust them. do you want to enter into a closer relationship or start a business with a person who might be caustic and antisocial or might be just fine, but you can't know yet because there's a conflict?

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    5. Monoid Mary‏ @argumatronic 30 Apr 2018
      Replying to @argumatronic @propensive

      to me, Twitter is already "society". Twitter can be different than offline society and can be treated differently -- some people are more comfortable talking here so it's their main social outlet. someone who is uncivil here is, in my mind, uncivil.

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    6. Monoid Mary‏ @argumatronic 30 Apr 2018
      Replying to @argumatronic @propensive

      that is, they have this society (in which it can actually be easier to be civil than offline). if they're a jerk here, they're going to be a jerk IRL too, it's just a matter of time.

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    7. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 30 Apr 2018
      Replying to @argumatronic

      But maybe we're talking about different sorts of people. I've had quite nuanced conversations with some people, then they've posted tweets like "if you don't agree with X, then go fuck yourself". I have sympathy because I often do agree with X, but I think it's uncivil.

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    8. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 30 Apr 2018
      Replying to @propensive @argumatronic

      I just think that that sort of broadcast anger doesn't really endear anyone the cause, but I tend to give them a pass because I agree with it. Maybe it's a cognitive bias at play, but I'm tempted to trust such a person less than another who is consistently a jerk online and off.

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    9. Monoid Mary‏ @argumatronic 30 Apr 2018
      Replying to @propensive

      this is all very thoughtful and fair and i appreciate your comments.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 30 Apr 2018
      Replying to @argumatronic

      Haha, thank you for sharing the appreciation! I particularly liked the original question, though. ;) ...and I hope I could give a consistently-civil, but maybe more elaborate response in real life some time. I still feel like I'm doing lots of condensing to fit it into tweets...

      10:17 AM - 30 Apr 2018 from Zakopane, Poland
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