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    Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 13 Mar 2018

    Smartphone notifications when you don't have a good network connection are hugely frustrating. Apps should be required to cache anything they choose to display a notification about before they show it. Unfortunately, I think most testing assumes perfect network connectivity.

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      2. Maciek Gorywoda  ⚡‏ @makingthematrix 13 Mar 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        I'm just working on this now in Wire Android's app. Notifications are a huge pain in the bum even in the best network conditions. So many edge cases... But yes, we cache them.

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 13 Mar 2018
        Replying to @makingthematrix

        Good work! So many apps don't, and if my network is down, not only do I miss the thing I wanted to see, but I lose my only link to it when the notification goes away... though I suppose that's a different API misusage.

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      1. Jens Grassel‏ @dwardoric 13 Mar 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        Maybe they're testing using office wifi. ;-) But assuming perfect conditions can often be seen in testing in general.

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      2. Gabriele Petronella‏ @gabro27 13 Mar 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        This along the same lines as "I prefer no wifi to slow wifi"

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 13 Mar 2018
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        I'm tempted to refine this further! I care less about the speed of the wifi than the consistency of its speed.

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      1. Christopher Hunt‏ @huntchr 13 Mar 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        The first rule of mobile app development - assume that there's no network. I learned that with the Palm VII back in 1999. :-)

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      2. Tom Colvin‏ @tdcolvin 13 Mar 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        Doesn't work like that, though. Unless app is in the foreground, notifications are delivered to, and displayed by, the OS. First the app gets to hear about it is if the user taps on it.

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      3. Maciek Gorywoda  ⚡‏ @makingthematrix 13 Mar 2018
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        We can tell OS how to handle notifications when the app is in background. In Android it's done via FCM (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37711082/how-to-handle-notification-when-app-in-background-in-firebase …). But it's not reliable. It's safer to treat it only as a nudge: "hey, there's something for you!" and then ask the server directly for notifications.

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      1. Rory‏ @a_dev_musing 13 Mar 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        And please put in proper network timeouts, losing connection whilst opening an offline enabled app should not freeze it for 30+ seconds.

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