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    Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Feb 2018

    Jon Pretty Retweeted Adam Warski

    This article makes a good point about Java's main method. Its privileged status makes it a fine starting point for reasoning about a program. However, it would be better if its signature encapsulated all the inputs to your program: not just args, but env vars and I/O streams too.https://twitter.com/adamwarski/status/963768358821859328 …

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    Adam Warski @adamwarski
    Don't fear the main() https://blog.softwaremill.com/dont-fear-the-main-1b9612ea6467 …
    7:52 AM - 15 Feb 2018 from Marrakesh Medina, Morocco
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      2.  🔴 Lars Hupel‏ @larsr_h 15 Feb 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        Environment variables are the bane of my existence 😡

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Susan Potter‏ @SusanPotter 15 Feb 2018
        Replying to @larsr_h @propensive

        Coeffects? I mean some programs wouldn't have environment variables (eg. targeting HaLVM/MirageOS).

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      2. Tpol Chico‏ @tpolecat 15 Feb 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        Yeah, agree. I think of main() as part of the runtime. All it does is gather all the environmental bits that it needs to construct and execute the "real" program

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      3. Long Cao‏ @oacgnol 15 Feb 2018
        Replying to @tpolecat @propensive

        I like to think of it as "the end of the world" as so many FP folk like to put it

        0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Andrea‏ @and_prf 15 Feb 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        Isn't your program just side effecting? Isn't it? 🙂

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Feb 2018
        Replying to @and_prf

        Well, that main method is never going to be pure, but I think it's useful to be closer to purity. It should also return an exit-status integer!

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      2. Dimitar Georgiev‏ @dgeorgiev_bg 16 Feb 2018
        Replying to @propensive

        You could roll that env thing yourself a bit like the scalaz SafeApp thingie?

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Feb 2018
        Replying to @dgeorgiev_bg

        Yes, I'm considering it! Different implementations could be provided for different runtimes (well, Scala.js) but I think it would just be convention that stops people accessing environment variables through System.getenv. Or maybe a SecurityManager could help?

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