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    1.  🔴 Lars Hupel‏ @larsr_h 11 Feb 2018

      I was initially skeptical about Rust's convention of having tests in the same file as the actual code, but it seems to be working out well.

      4 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
    2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @larsr_h

      I actually thought we should go the opposite direction and have tests in a different repository, evolving independently of the code they're testing. This would make it easier to check the behaviour of past as well as future versions of the code.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3.  🔴 Lars Hupel‏ @larsr_h 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @propensive

      tbh that sounds like a tooling nightmare

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @larsr_h

      I think only in the context of what we're currently familiar with. Trying to sell someone our current universe from my hypothetical alternative universe would probably make it seem a nightmare to them, too...

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5.  🔴 Lars Hupel‏ @larsr_h 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @propensive

      Fair point, so let's see: How would you handle compatibility between main and test repositories?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @larsr_h

      What do you mean by compatibility here?

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    7.  🔴 Lars Hupel‏ @larsr_h 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @propensive

      It's difficult enough to keep compatibility across versions when you're programming against a public API. With tests, you often want to check internals.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @larsr_h

      Oh, you wouldn't, but the fact it's hard at the moment is sort of the point: If the tests aren't in sync with your main repo, then some of them would just fail (at compile time). You would update them if/when you care enough to do so, but no requirement for it to be synchronous.

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    9. Jakub Kozłowski‏ @kubukoz 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @propensive @larsr_h

      Isn't that the equivalent of "I'll write the tests later"? If you release untested code into production, the difference between writing the tests later and never writing them is close to none.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 12 Feb 2018
      Replying to @kubukoz @larsr_h

      But it decouples the two, but doesn't change anyone's standards on whether the deploy untested code. And it leaves open the possibility of someone writing those tests later, which would otherwise be closed.

      9:32 AM - 12 Feb 2018 from Marrakesh Medina, Morocco
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        1. Jakub Kozłowski‏ @kubukoz 12 Feb 2018
          Replying to @propensive @larsr_h

          seems like it's just not an option I would prefer then. But I see how it could be useful to some.

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