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    Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Dec 2017

    Jon Pretty Retweeted Katrin Shechtman

    I'm not sure how to respond to this. I've really tried hard to be inclusive, and Scala World pays all the travel costs of its speakers, and the conference makes a loss which I cover. Yes, I am at almost all Scala conferences, but I pay for myself about 80% of the time.https://twitter.com/katrinsh/status/938433075306008576 …

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    Katrin Shechtman @katrinsh
    Replying to @katrinsh @propensive
    And @propensive btw for person whom I see virtually at any Scala conference I go, you’re pretty un-inclusive as conference organizer. Thanks to @Twitter increasing message, I finally can communicate that clear enough! Phew ;)
    7:56 AM - 6 Dec 2017 from Sigtuna, Sverige
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      1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Dec 2017

        We also pay for travel costs of speakers' partners if they're coming from Europe. As most speakers are men, this generally has the effect of improving the gender balance at the conference events, and (I hope) makes the environment more comfortable for women.

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      2. Daniel Spiewak‏ @djspiewak 6 Dec 2017
        Replying to @propensive

        For what it’s worth, I don’t agree with the accusation. I’m certainly not in the best position to judge, but from my perspective, you’ve worked diligently to ensure an inclusive and supportive conference for all.

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Dec 2017
        Replying to @djspiewak

        Thanks, Daniel. I understand where the criticism is coming from, though: the Scala community is very imbalanced. Every Scala conference looks uninclusive. The criticism just stings when you work hard against it.

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      1. Rui Batista‏ @ragb 6 Dec 2017
        Replying to @propensive

        If there is a person I found inclusive at Scala conferences that person is you, John. I believe I’m entitled to talk about inclusion, but who knows these days…

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      1. Gabriele Petronella‏ @gabro27 6 Dec 2017
        Replying to @propensive

        It’s a rather surprising statement and it doesn’t match my perception of you and Scala World. I’m curious to know the details of where it comes from.

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      2. Katrin Shechtman‏ @katrinsh 6 Dec 2017
        Replying to @propensive

        That's easy Jon: just open the submission, at least some %. For all people who demand to know why I dared to challenge Jon: when someone gathers courage and comes forward, easiest yet dullest thing to do is to discard it as false. Elitism is the biggest threat to Scala community

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Dec 2017
        Replying to @katrinsh

        People asked for more explanation, and I'm glad you've given it. I know you suggested a CfP, but I disagreed because I decided at the outset on a curated programme of speakers based on more than just abstracts. I seek excellence, diversity and coherency in the programme.

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      1. kings13y‏ @kings13y 6 Dec 2017
        Replying to @propensive

        Assuming there's missing context here. As such, if the feedback were more pointed/constructive would be of more use imho. My experience and observation is at polar opposites to this feedback though Jon. Cc @katrinsh

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      1. Emily Pillmore‏ @bkmlep 6 Dec 2017
        Replying to @propensive

        I thought you did a fantastic job so far, and I'd love to hear a full critique from Katrin, instead of trying to fit what seems to be a complex argument into a measly 180 characters, which only comes across as almost bullying on this platform.

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