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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 2 Nov 2017

      This is *all* the code you need to get generic derivation of Show typeclasses with Magnolia. Come to my @ScalaIO_FR talk later!pic.twitter.com/RlRg8Gjl9C

      2 replies 6 retweets 28 likes
    2. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 2 Nov 2017
      Replying to @propensive @ScalaIO_FR

      Make it clear in the talk how awfully slow automatic generic derivation in Scala is, please 😃

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 2 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jvican @ScalaIO_FR

      I'm going to make it fast.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @propensive @jvican @ScalaIO_FR

      Is ~10x Shapeless's derivation speed fast enough for you?

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @propensive @ScalaIO_FR

      It's a great step towards the right direction, certainly! I feel the deriv. times could be addressed in the compiler more systematically.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jvican @ScalaIO_FR

      There's not much more the compiler can do: My ASTs are semantically quite minimal yet most of the compile time is still typechecking them.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 5 Nov 2017
      Replying to @propensive @jvican @ScalaIO_FR

      The compiler may help with the implicit search and AST generation, but those ASTs are fundamentally large and therefore slow to typecheck.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 6 Nov 2017
      Replying to @propensive @ScalaIO_FR

      I would need to have a closer look, but I can tell you I'm tired of benchmark the typer and 90% of time is in implicit search, no asts.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 6 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jvican @propensive @ScalaIO_FR

      Generally, simple AST typechecking is really cheap. The cost of implicit search dominates compile times in shapeless and Circe.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jvican @ScalaIO_FR

      I also cache recursive implicit searches for the same type, though in my tests, that didn't buy me much.

      12:50 AM - 6 Nov 2017
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        1. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @propensive @ScalaIO_FR

          I said that *simple* AST typechecking of big trees is not a problem in all the benchmarking I've done so far :) I can share data if you want

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        2. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @jvican @propensive @ScalaIO_FR

          I would be interested in having a closer look to Magnolia compile times, I'll benchmark it today with new stats. Is it 2.12?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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