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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Jan 2015

      A community is made up of individuals. Read what most individuals in #scalaz have said and done, and they're a pretty reasonable bunch.

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    2. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @propensive

      @propensive TBF a community is made up of individuals, but it's defined by what those individuals tolerate

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @DRMacIver

      @DRMacIver Is it not just a microcosm of wider society? Society is only majority nice, but is it toxic? I don't want to leave, anyway.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @propensive

      @propensive This seems like a non sequitur. Communities can be and are more or less tolerant of a variety of behaviours than background.

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    5. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @DRMacIver

      @DRMacIver Yes, good point. But do you want more or less tolerance? I've seen a lot of criticism that Scalaz is too tolerant.

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    6. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @propensive

      @propensive The answer is "it's complicated". Tolerance isn't a scalar it's a vector, and *what* you tolerate matters.

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    7. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @DRMacIver

      @DRMacIver Yeah, I completely agree. And the fact it's complicated isn't always understood.

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    8. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver 8 Jan 2015
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      @propensive It's also sometimes hard to see who you're excluding by what you tolerate because they're by definition not there.

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    9. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @DRMacIver

      @DRMacIver Yes. And also easy to hypothesize who it is, correctly or otherwise.

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    10. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @propensive

      @propensive I have noticed more than a few people saying they avoid Scalaz and similar communities for exactly this reason FWIW.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Jan 2015
      Replying to @DRMacIver

      @DRMacIver People argue that @dibblego is a reason to avoid Scalaz. I just don't like that argument being extended to the whole community.

      2:52 AM - 8 Jan 2015
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        1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Jan 2015
          Replying to @propensive

          @DRMacIver @dibblego I'm sure Tony is perfectly happy to take criticism if that's the reason. There are tons of others who don't deserve it.

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        2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Jan 2015
          Replying to @propensive

          @DRMacIver @dibblego Sure. Though in Scalaz's case, I think it was pretty easy to avoid Tony. He was banned from most places.

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        1. David R. MacIver‏ @DRMacIver 8 Jan 2015
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          @propensive if someone is hard to avoid when participating it doesn't really matter if everyone else is great

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